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Originally Posted by Zerosilver84
(Post 3304692)
Well rumor has it both AA and DAL might increase flow numbers at their WO.
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Originally Posted by eligible2flow
(Post 3305349)
Not true. filler
*flow increase dependent on non AA attrition numbers per month |
Originally Posted by Tjeff
(Post 3305377)
AA just increased their flow* numbers with the retention bonuses.
*flow increase dependent on non AA attrition numbers per month |
Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021
(Post 3305380)
No, there is talk about actual flow increases. ALPA has supposedly received initial info from AA, but there are strings attached (as you would expect). Looks like 4-12 more per month, depending on the WO. (PDT getting 4 more, Envoy getting 12 more). Not dependent on attrition, but a real flow increase.
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Originally Posted by Tjeff
(Post 3305377)
AA just increased their flow* numbers with the retention bonuses.
*flow increase dependent on non AA attrition numbers per month They will have to increase the numbers, they have a huge retention issue and they need to fix it asap. Increasing flow would be an easy way to do it, and I hope they will. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3305496)
, they have a huge retention issue and they need to fix it asap. Increasing flow would be an easy way to do it.
1) they lose 360 captains 2) the guys at 500-800 still are over a year out. Why would they pass up the greatest hiring wave in a generation? Dl/ua/fdx/ups are gonna snatch up several hundred others now psa still has no captains and the whole house of cards implodes |
Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3305524)
I don’t they can increase flow enough to fix the problem. AA is looking to hire 150/month this year and they’re currently Flowing something like 30/month. Say they triple the flow. (Unlikely but not impossible). That would have PSA flowing 360/year. Couple problems
1) they lose 360 captains 2) the guys at 500-800 still are over a year out. Why would they pass up the greatest hiring wave in a generation? Dl/ua/fdx/ups are gonna snatch up several hundred others now psa still has no captains and the whole house of cards implodes |
Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3305524)
I don’t they can increase flow enough to fix the problem. AA is looking to hire 150/month this year and they’re currently Flowing something like 30/month. Say they triple the flow. (Unlikely but not impossible). That would have PSA flowing 360/year. Couple problems
1) they lose 360 captains 2) the guys at 500-800 still are over a year out. Why would they pass up the greatest hiring wave in a generation? Dl/ua/fdx/ups are gonna snatch up several hundred others now psa still has no captains and the whole house of cards implodes |
Originally Posted by Tjeff
(Post 3305629)
A lot of people from my personal experience really want to work for AA a huge reason is hub locations, PHL, CLT and MIA. I think it would stop a few know they can get to their number 1 faster. Call them whatever for turning down United to wait 1.5 years to flow but maybe they live in CLT and don’t want to commute for 30 years.
There have been many that have done this in the past. |
The “some people want to flow” argument isn’t wrong but it’s irrelevant. The WO’s are near an unsustainable tipping point. It’s like saying half your red blood cells want to stay but the other half are going on the floor. You can only lose so many
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