Lobbying to roll back 1500 hr rule:
05-12-2022 | 10:25 AM
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Except Operational Performance Bonuses have been in the $50-$75 range per quarter lately while the Financial Performance Bonuses are effectively over since Skywest is no longer making a profit and is not forecast to do so for the near future.
Pilot Profit Share payout is only guaranteed through this year, and was on the negotiating block to be terminated the last package for FO's. Only left in place after overwhelming rejection of the first attempt by management to cut real pay, while appearing to increase pay.
Pilot Profit Share payout is only guaranteed through this year, and was on the negotiating block to be terminated the last package for FO's. Only left in place after overwhelming rejection of the first attempt by management to cut real pay, while appearing to increase pay.
05-12-2022 | 11:17 AM
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Practically no one is making only that there... Also it goes from $47/hr to $52/hr after the first year. In addition there are bonuses and profit sharing...
From APC:
"Pilot Profit Share Payout Program for all pilots, paid bi-annually. Additional Operational Performance Bonuses for pilots after 1 year at SkyWest and Financial Performance Bonuses for pilots after 2 years at SkyWest, paid quarterly."
From APC:
"Pilot Profit Share Payout Program for all pilots, paid bi-annually. Additional Operational Performance Bonuses for pilots after 1 year at SkyWest and Financial Performance Bonuses for pilots after 2 years at SkyWest, paid quarterly."
05-12-2022 | 11:55 AM
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ALL part 141 approved universities are going to put out graduates who can fly to ACS standards AND be well versed in ground knowledge and theory.
SOME part 61 students will also have comparative ground knowledge.
Other part 61 students will simply memorize Sheppard air and pass their written with a 90% or higher. Then they will memorize the ASA oral exam guidebook at best. Alternatively, they will memorize a 1 page printout of checkride gouge detailing exactly what questions to expect on the oral. They might pass their checkride with flying colors despite having a very thin layer of knowledge
Both part 141 and 61 can pass the same checkride and still not be equal.
SOME part 61 students will also have comparative ground knowledge.
Other part 61 students will simply memorize Sheppard air and pass their written with a 90% or higher. Then they will memorize the ASA oral exam guidebook at best. Alternatively, they will memorize a 1 page printout of checkride gouge detailing exactly what questions to expect on the oral. They might pass their checkride with flying colors despite having a very thin layer of knowledge
Both part 141 and 61 can pass the same checkride and still not be equal.
05-12-2022 | 04:04 PM
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Part 141 is also tailored to the individual. Yes, you need to make sure you do every part of the lesson and do the lessons in order. Once that is taken care of however, you keep repeating the necessary items until the student gets it.
05-12-2022 | 06:10 PM
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Man, I'll jump in here. Taught both. Flown with guys from both. This is a bit of over generalization because there's a lot of other things going on too besides where you learned to fly by the time you show up at a regional. I think Part 61 turns out better stick and rudder guys that can also think through and reason through stuff on their own. But 141 turns out pilots better suited for the procedural approach of sitting right seat in a regional airline and learning how to think through and reason through problems in the way their airline wants them to. Both are fine in the long run but from the left seat, I find it much easier to PF with a part 141 types and easier to PM with a part 61 types. The more time they have with the airline, the more time their prior experience doesn't matter.
05-12-2022 | 06:12 PM
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05-12-2022 | 08:44 PM
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05-13-2022 | 02:49 AM
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05-13-2022 | 03:31 AM
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Factor in all the early COVID retirements, all the people who run into medical issues in their 60s and all the others who don’t want to work past 65…. And you aren’t left with too many people.
Also, it wouldn’t fix the problem. Most pilots that old are at Majors or Legacy airlines.
The shortage is regional captains and LCA.
The only thing that would possibly put a dent in the problem is if you created a “Restricted 1st Class” medical allowing people older then 65 to still fly part 121 in aircraft with less than 80 seats (or something like that).
Also, it wouldn’t fix the problem. Most pilots that old are at Majors or Legacy airlines.
The shortage is regional captains and LCA.
The only thing that would possibly put a dent in the problem is if you created a “Restricted 1st Class” medical allowing people older then 65 to still fly part 121 in aircraft with less than 80 seats (or something like that).
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