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Old 05-11-2022 | 09:36 AM
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I fly for a Part 135 ERJ-145 operator and was hired at 775. I do just fine. We even hire at 500. 1,500 hours in a single engine Cessna won’t prepare you for a transport category aircraft any more than 500 will.
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Old 05-11-2022 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
It really is impressive how out of touch he is.
I need whatever hobbies he has! I would love to be that far away from airline reality
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Old 05-11-2022 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
As always, Mesa is the exception, not the rule.

Is it? Skywest is around 46$ an hour x 75 / 2 = 1725 gross. Take out the deductions and tell me how far off my number was.
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Old 05-11-2022 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by planejoe
Is it? Skywest is around 46$ an hour x 75 / 2 = 1725 gross. Take out the deductions and tell me how far off my number was.
Sonic Flyer has always struggled with math

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Old 05-11-2022 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
They have, and it still isn't solving the problem. It's not about the money at the regionals, it's about the ability to actually get there.
I was talking to someone at a local university flight school and they have a full roster with something like 150 on the waiting list. I've also looked at BIZJETJOBS and just for instance they're showing a bunch of single engine turboprop jobs (like the PC-12) wanting 2000 PIC which if that's indicative of the industry as a whole some could be in for a rude awakening.
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Old 05-11-2022 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by aeroengineer
I was talking to someone at a local university flight school and they have a full roster with something like 150 on the waiting list. I've also looked at BIZJETJOBS and just for instance they're showing a bunch of single engine turboprop jobs (like the PC-12) wanting 2000 PIC which if that's indicative of the industry as a whole some could be in for a rude awakening.
Yeah I’ve checked out those job boards before and from my experience they just put that number there and then hire lower or most even just end up hiring internally or through word of mouth. Conversely, we were discussing the 121 environment and quite frankly 1500 isn’t that hard to get to. Sure, you may not be hired to time build in a jet or turboprop unless you know someone or are in the military, but most build their hours until 500 TT instructing since that’s the minimum most insurance companies require elsewhere.

I’d say in today’s environment, lots of Part 91 and 135 operators will be hiring at lower time minimums due to the decrease in the pool of available pilots who are heading for the regionals if not there already. The amount of call backs I received from places I applied to early last year and summer prior to the regionals was shocking
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Old 05-11-2022 | 10:19 PM
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So I wonder if that Republic program is going to give the students a year of training like I got in US Air Force UPT? I remember we had about a month of academics then were flying jets for the next 11 months (1981-1982). And prior to UPT you got some time in a military Cessna 172 or similar (depending on how you got your commission) unless you already had a PPL.
They're asking for the same reduction to 750 hours so they should get training just as good as we had.
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Old 05-12-2022 | 03:42 AM
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The fact that Republic (or any airline) could think that their training is equivalent or even somewhat close to US military flight training is utterly, incredibly laughable.
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Old 05-12-2022 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by planejoe
Is it? Skywest is around 46$ an hour x 75 / 2 = 1725 gross. Take out the deductions and tell me how far off my number was.
Practically no one is making only that there... Also it goes from $47/hr to $52/hr after the first year. In addition there are bonuses and profit sharing...

From APC:
"Pilot Profit Share Payout Program for all pilots, paid bi-annually. Additional Operational Performance Bonuses for pilots after 1 year at SkyWest and Financial Performance Bonuses for pilots after 2 years at SkyWest, paid quarterly."
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Old 05-12-2022 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

From APC:
"Pilot Profit Share Payout Program for all pilots, paid bi-annually. Additional Operational Performance Bonuses for pilots after 1 year at SkyWest and Financial Performance Bonuses for pilots after 2 years at SkyWest, paid quarterly."
Except Operational Performance Bonuses have been in the $50-$75 range per quarter lately while the Financial Performance Bonuses are effectively over since Skywest is no longer making a profit and is not forecast to do so for the near future.
Pilot Profit Share payout is only guaranteed through this year, and was on the negotiating block to be terminated the last package for FO's. Only left in place after overwhelming rejection of the first attempt by management to cut real pay, while appearing to increase pay.
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