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08-13-2022 | 12:57 PM

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This is where unions lose all credibility by being absurd.

Should they push for better pay, work rules, and safety? Absolutely.

But when they say things like this they look completely out of touch with reality.

If you believe the current situation isn't because of mismanagement, I dunno what to tell you. Airlines have been aware of the pending shortage for decades.... Yet they failed to prepare and to pay up to make the jobs appealing to new entrants.

08-13-2022 | 01:04 PM

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This X1000!

08-13-2022 | 02:15 PM

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since you’re on the outside of the airline world, I’ll tell you first hand: these issues are almost entirely because of operational mismanagement.

08-13-2022 | 04:36 PM

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That's only one factor. The over burdensome regulatory environment, specifically the 1500 hour rule, put forth by Obama is another large factor.

08-13-2022 | 06:48 PM

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that's only one factor. The over burdensome regulatory environment, specifically the 1500 hour rule, put forth by obama is another large factor.

THANKS Obama.

08-14-2022 | 05:22 AM

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That's only one factor. The over burdensome regulatory environment, specifically the 1500 hour rule, put forth by Obama is another large factor.

I mean I prefer having less deadly crashes with that 1500 hour rule. If you don’t I guess that’s cool too.

08-14-2022 | 06:02 AM

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I mean I prefer having less deadly crashes with that 1500 hour rule. If you don’t I guess that’s cool too.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. I really wish they still mandated a logic class freshman year of college.

08-14-2022 | 06:29 AM

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Correlation doesn't equal causation.

Agree in general, but we stopped having fatal hull losses while the rest of the world did not. Big coincidence.

I'll take it at face value, until somebody can prove that wet commercials are safer than ATP's.

08-14-2022 | 07:42 AM

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That's only one factor. The over burdensome regulatory environment, specifically the 1500 hour rule, put forth by Obama is another large factor.

So have you ever had to fly with an inexperienced pilot in a jet before? What's your actual experience?

08-14-2022 | 08:46 AM

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This has been explained multiple times, the 1500 hour rule had nothing to do with safety, it had to do with Obama giving a political favor to the unions. The Part 117 rest rules and training emphasis on stall prevention and recovery that came out of Colgan were absolutely 100% safety related and a good thing. But the 1500 hour rule had nothing to do with safety. Anyone who can think their way out of a wet paper sack can understand this.