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Old 04-20-2025 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Njflyguy
Let's assume I know nothing about the constitution and what the Supreme Court does. Enlighten me please, professor. Explain to me what the Supreme Court is, what its responsibility is and how it relates to the US Constitution.
When the SCOTUS gets it wrong either juries or state governments can nullify its decisions.
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Old 04-20-2025 | 12:55 PM
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Ha even the regional participants are close to flowing getting kicked out for unknown reasons and maybe they should join the list. Aviate program rules are changed to their likings and who they choose.
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Old 04-21-2025 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
When the SCOTUS gets it wrong either juries or state governments can nullify its decisions.
so are you saying when the Supreme Court rules on a case, a state can overturn it if it doesn’t agree with it? Does that mean states can write their own laws that violate the U.S. Constitution and thumb their nose at a Supreme Court ruling? Maybe a state thinks they don’t need a search warrant and can do whatever it takes to obtain evidence in a case, throwing out the 4th amendment rights of all citizens. How does that work, exactly, professor?

Roe v Wade protected the right to choose and even the states that didn’t like it couldn’t prevent it from happening until a challenge to that ruling had SCOTUS reversing the 50 year old decision and decided it wasn’t a constitutional issue and therefore states were left to decide on it.

But that’s not a jury or state government “nullifying” a decision, as you say. That was a formal challenge that SCOTUS had to address and decide whether or not the constitution applied to a case. Do you have examples of where a state or jury outright decided a SCOTUS decision to be wrong and then went ahead and did their own thing, like violating 4th amendment rights of someone?

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Old 04-21-2025 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Njflyguy
so are you saying when the Supreme Court rules on a case, a state can overturn it if it doesn’t agree with it? Does that mean states can write their own laws that violate the U.S. Constitution and thumb their nose at a Supreme Court ruling?
Yes. The state governments created the federal government so they are superior to it. Do a little reading of history on the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions.

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Maybe a state thinks they don’t need a search warrant and can do whatever it takes to obtain evidence in a case, throwing out the 4th amendment rights of all citizens. How does that work, exactly, professor?
Historically the first 10 Amendments (known as the Bill of "Rights") never applied to the state governments, only the federal governments. Most state constitutions are more restrictive of their own governments than the federal Constitution is restrictive of the federal government. In the late 1800s and early 1900s the SCOTUS began making stuff up such as the Incorporation Doctrine which it then started applying the 10 Amendments onto the state governments. There are books written about this by Raul Berger, Tom Woods, and Forrest McDonald if you want to learn more.

Originally Posted by Njflyguy
Do you have examples of where a state or jury outright decided a SCOTUS decision to be wrong and then went ahead and did their own thing, like violating 4th amendment rights of someone?
Look up the Fugitive Slave Act.
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Old 04-21-2025 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
In the late 1800s and early 1900s the SCOTUS began making stuff up such as the Incorporation Doctrine which it then started applying the 10 Amendments onto the state governments.
So this union hating pilot (?) knows better than the last 150 years of case law of the most successful democratic capitalist country on earth. Meanwhile, he subscribes to a libertarian cult's philosophy adopted by no country on earth. To say he and the other Austrian School adherents are in desperate need of a feedback loop is an understatement to say the least. Cuckoo, cuckoo!
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Old 04-21-2025 | 08:28 AM
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So this union hating pilot (?) knows better than the last 150 years of case law of the most successful democratic capitalist country on earth. Meanwhile, he subscribes to a libertarian cult's philosophy adopted by no country on earth. To say he and the other Austrian School adherents are in desperate need of a feedback loop is an understatement to say the least. Cuckoo, cuckoo!
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
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Old 04-21-2025 | 08:36 AM
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By all means give us some examples to prove your points from the last century or successful economies in the world that adhere to the 'Austrian School of Economics'. Otherwise, admit that your philosophies are simply not reality-based.
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Old 04-22-2025 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
By all means give us some examples to prove your points from the last century or successful economies in the world that adhere to the 'Austrian School of Economics'. Otherwise, admit that your philosophies are simply not reality-based.
Argentina.
Ah, you meant successful. sorry. Does not exist



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Old 04-23-2025 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Twr199
MESA and GOJET don’t have a dying fleet. They’re just dying.
Gojet died on June 25, 2014, killed by Steve Briner. Every heartbeat Gojet has taken since has been a miracle. Somehow, for some reason, Trans States and Compass were sacrificed and GJ kept on life support.
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Old 04-23-2025 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
Historically the first 10 Amendments (known as the Bill of "Rights") never applied to the state governments, only the federal governments. Most state constitutions are more restrictive of their own governments than the federal Constitution is restrictive of the federal government. In the late 1800s and early 1900s the SCOTUS began making stuff up such as the Incorporation Doctrine which it then started applying the 10 Amendments onto the state governments. There are books written about this by Raul Berger, Tom Woods, and Forrest McDonald if you want to learn more.
Without agreeing or disagreeing with the post, the courts have been ruling that some of the items in the Bill of Rights have become applicable to the states by the 14th amendment.
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