The mins are going to go down across the board @ every regional airline. particularly once the majors start hiring again. An old captain once told me. You know how you pick your first airline? The first one that offers you a job. The next question: Do you know how you know if you picked the right one? Answer: If its still around 30 years from now. When it boils down to it, it doesn't matter who we fly for @ a regional level. As long as we are gaining experience, and not screwing other people over. @ the core most regionals are the same. Minor differences in work rules, bennefits, etc. But they all A. under pay, B. QOL sucks, and C. treat there pilot group badly. Look @ your time @ a regional like its a residency... do your time and move on. Suck it up. It could always, and I do mean always be worse. You could not have a job. And there could be none available else were. i am not saying that we shouldn't fight for what we deserve though, namely higher pay work rules etc. But i am saying that we should be grateful for what we do. For years, people would have killed to have a seat @ any airline..

just my 2 cents.

 

BUT...you may be at a Regional for a while, like it or not. In that case, you are probably better off somewhere that doesn't assign you a double-deadhead to an overnight to a 14 credit-hour four-day, as was posted previously.

And that is the truth - I couldn't stand another one of those 14-hour trips...No Thank YOU!

 

I dont know about you guys, but 135 rules protect me from being forces to do stuff like that. How do the 121 rules stack up against 135? If we fly over 10 hours of FT/14 hour duty day since we signed on, we are kindly asked if we can return the airplane and if we say no, we're tired, they say alright get some rest and bring the airplane home... how does that work in the 121 world?

 

well for starters we can only fly up to 8 hours, over as long as we were origianlly scheduled to fly 8 or less, and wether or not the majors are hiring is irrelevant, still may take years for them to call, block or better adds up after all the years......

 

Yeah, being a line holder and making more money in per diem than I do flying in a day. <Happened twice last month.> really chaps my a$$. But hell. I still don't mind. i have worked worse schedules. Try sitting guard until 5am and then going to an 8am class. invariably, that sucks way worse.

 

COMPLETELY AGREE. It is time for the regionals to be a little more competitive. Force higher compensation from their customers. Changes starts at home. With management feeding this problem (250 & 25) nobody will get anywhere. TSAs minnimums are to say the least negligent. But they got what they deserved, if you treat everybody so poorly then nobody is going to want to work for you. 600/100 is one thing, as a low time new hire I know the benefits of flight instructing and spending time building time. You learn alot about yourself (your own limitations) and flying. I am certainly not the most qualified pilot, but I am willing to work hard studying and learning. What great captains these guys are going to make with NO CFI EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER. Its time to turn this thing around.

 

So I suppose that all of those eurpean carriers aircrafts are just falling out of the sky then, since a large portion of there training is done through ab initio training programs. And I really do guess, that flying around the pea patch doing stalls and slowflight, makes you a lot more suited to flying 121, than someone who may have less time, but has trained exclusively for that purpose. just out of curiosity as an example, how many people in your new hire class could explain exemption 3585 before classes even started? Knew what a PACK was, and had an extensive understanding of how it worked? Had a thurough understanding of high altitude aerodynamics? Core Lock? Understood, the whitlow interpritation? Every one of the AB kids in my class could. I am not saying that our pay is great, or we don't deserve more. If that happened, it would drive the minimums back up. Which would be a good thing. But I am saying, that before you insult a low time guy, get a handle on his experience level. The old idiom of, if i fly for 3000+ hours without killing myself or bending an airplane, it must mean i am a good pilot, is dead. Better training = better suited for the carreer. All low time pilots are not equal. 250 hours @ Joe's FBO and crabshack, will not be the same as 250 hours @ a specialty program like lufthansa's. Add in there sim training, a couple of type ratings, etc. They have a pretty diverse resume. As someone said earlier, the military has pilots that are qualified pic with that kind of experience. You don't see there aircraft dropping like flies, infact, many consider there training to be the best in the world.

 

 

I've always heard the best regional to go to is the first one that hires you..(with some exceptions obviously)...If you have plans for something better. If you are 40, and obviously going to be a LIFER, then you better try for a good company. Those of you who arent 40, go get your time, and keep yours bills low, and DO YOUR TIME.....

 

HAHAHAHA... That is hilarious... The best part about it, is that i can't tell if your agreeing with me or not... haha... Either way, its hilarious!

and as for "I've always heard the best regional to go to is the first one that hires you..(with some exceptions obviously)...If you have plans for something better. If you are 40, and obviously going to be a LIFER, then you better try for a good company. Those of you who arent 40, go get your time, and keep yours bills low, and DO YOUR TIME....."
I couldn't agree more.