TSA' Ridiculously low minimums
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hahah even I dont know where his comment came from hahaah. Kinda like the crazy Grandma at Thanksgiving dinner, who just says outlandish things for no apparent reasonhahaha
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From: UAL 756 FO
I can tell you first hand that students are starting to go through training with the mindset that they can go to a regional as soon as they get their commercial. I flew with a guy last night who said " Hell no, I'm not getting my CFI, I'm gonna just get some multi time and go to Colgan" <--
(honest thats what he said)
I can already tell I'm learning a lot more since I started instructing. You start to pay attention to the details when your not flying the plane. I'm enjoying it....for now.
(honest thats what he said)I can already tell I'm learning a lot more since I started instructing. You start to pay attention to the details when your not flying the plane. I'm enjoying it....for now.
It wasn’t too long ago that regional minimum were way over 2000 hours (or not even hiring). Somewhere a line in the sand must be drawn where “how low is too low.” Depends on who you talk to and what the hiring conditions were like when they went threw it (3 years to 30 years ago). Safety is always number one. Can you put a minimum hour time on what is safe? Food for thought.
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TSA's training isn't particularly tough, but it is in depth and unlike other regionals they don't have procedure-based training to teach you to push the right button at the right time and fill a seat. Instead they teach you the company rules, then every system in depth integrated with 12 pages of memory items and limitations that you have to have memorized and understand how to apply to the line in order for you to pass the oral. If people wash out it is their fault because they did not study enough.
As far as the 1500 wondercaptain... That is where we are headed no matter what. There is a lack of experienced pilots to staff regional airlines that isn't going to go away until there is another major event to destroy the demand for pilots again.
The QOL at TSA suffers from a really conservative management team that does not appreciate the pilot group. They treat the captains poorly and this has fostered a deep antagonism that can only be placated with a better contract and pilot-minded scheduling (double-dead heads to an overnight followed by a deadhead to a 12 hour 4 day and the like need to stop, -and all this for $20k a year). But hey, at least you stay motivated to leave.
People who have really studied to get their ratings do fine at TSA unlike pilots who have passed everything by memorizing answers a la Gleim. Guess I better get rid of all those red books before...
Personally I think upgrading before getting all 4 seasons in the airplane is ridiculous. I have never flown in a New England winter, and would never want to be PIC without having done that first as an FO. The race to the bottom ends with a crash.
P.S. I love it when people are saying how poor the training is at TSA and misspell words in their post. Not exactly building their case.
As far as the 1500 wondercaptain... That is where we are headed no matter what. There is a lack of experienced pilots to staff regional airlines that isn't going to go away until there is another major event to destroy the demand for pilots again.
The QOL at TSA suffers from a really conservative management team that does not appreciate the pilot group. They treat the captains poorly and this has fostered a deep antagonism that can only be placated with a better contract and pilot-minded scheduling (double-dead heads to an overnight followed by a deadhead to a 12 hour 4 day and the like need to stop, -and all this for $20k a year). But hey, at least you stay motivated to leave.
People who have really studied to get their ratings do fine at TSA unlike pilots who have passed everything by memorizing answers a la Gleim. Guess I better get rid of all those red books before...
Personally I think upgrading before getting all 4 seasons in the airplane is ridiculous. I have never flown in a New England winter, and would never want to be PIC without having done that first as an FO. The race to the bottom ends with a crash.
P.S. I love it when people are saying how poor the training is at TSA and misspell words in their post. Not exactly building their case.
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ellen, this forum is for discussion. You just came on and made five posts in less than 20 minutes, acknowledging "I didn't even read the thread" in one of them. If you don't want to read and discuss, don't post.
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