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Old 07-08-2007, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by higney85 View Post
.. Enjoy the pilot group, get your hours, get the upgrade, and move on with your jumpstart while everyone is bragging about their FO payrates at year 3 while you are moving on to your true goal of major/corporate/charter/freight/ or whatever else you want to do with aviation and need that magical 1000TJPIC.
If you think the "magical" 1000TPIC gets you anywhere these days, you might want take another look at the future. The Regionals for years have been selling the pipe dream that they work on the understanding that you come, upgrade, get your 1000 hours PIC and move on. Tell that to the many hundreds (probably into the 1000s) that have well over 1000 hours TPIC that are actively looking for at least an interview. I have yet to run into anyone that got an interview passing the 1000 hour mark unless they were VERY well connected. Most it seems are into the 3-5K hours TPIC range. It seems to be the typical idea that pilots don't care about the working conditions until they reach the 1000 TPIC; then the interviews don't come and they start to realize they may be at their company for the long haul and QOL all of a sudden became a big factor.
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coldpilot...i finish CPT tomorrow and begin sim training on thursday. If you have any questions with the current training program feel free to PM me. this goes for all others interested in working at 9E.
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If you think the "magical" 1000TPIC gets you anywhere these days, you might want take another look at the future. The Regionals for years have been selling the pipe dream that they work on the understanding that you come, upgrade, get your 1000 hours PIC and move on. Tell that to the many hundreds (probably into the 1000s) that have well over 1000 hours TPIC that are actively looking for at least an interview. I have yet to run into anyone that got an interview passing the 1000 hour mark unless they were VERY well connected. Most it seems are into the 3-5K hours TPIC range. It seems to be the typical idea that pilots don't care about the working conditions until they reach the 1000 TPIC; then the interviews don't come and they start to realize they may be at their company for the long haul and QOL all of a sudden became a big factor.
Some are connected... and some get to be in the right position at the right time when everyone is hiring with a low supply of qualified pilots. I have talked with guys with 5000 hoursTT, 2500TJPIC and can't get an interview (many of the PNCL guys). They typically are 35-40 years old (or older and with no contacts). I have also talked with guys who are already at jobs such as FDX with only 4000TT, 1000TJPIC. There are many factors that get you an interview and consequently the job. 1000TJPIC is the mins at pretty much every major- it may not be a "magical" number for some, but for everyone it "checks the box" for the TJPIC column. To each there own- getting into the CA seat is always better than sitting longer in the right seat getting the SIC time and making the FO paycheck.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:56 PM
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not taken,
I believe I am very good at it, do you speak Russian, French or German?

I am sure you only know English and you seem to have difficulties with variations. Do you know they speak English in New Zeeland, Australia, South Africa, India, England among many and that they all have their own way of talking........... It's funny but here in America I heard many times that the more languages you speak the more intelligent you are.........so were does it leave you if you only know English...........just thinking loud

I am american now after 15 years in this great country.

All my English I learned in Russia. You know we also have different letters?
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What State?



What type.



I flew Antonov in Russia. Good airplanes



Have you applied for any Regionals?


your english isn't a variation, it just causes headaches. also i love how you are so stuck on yourself. i have never seen anyone kiss their own butt so much... hahahahahaha. i was reading this and thinking "whos butt is he trying to kiss?" thats when i realized you were just talking about yourself, to yourself.. wow.... i speak 4 languages, english, spanish, portuguese and italian,, so according to you i am a freaking genius!!! sweet!!! actually speaking another language is no big deal, since to be in this industry you have to speak english, whether you are a controller or pilot. i think it would only help if you wanted to be a flight attendant (and you already admitted to that in previous thread). and i love how you are trying to be so secret about where you work... everyone knows i work at pinnacle, for some reason you are either to scared to admit where you work, or you don't work anywhere. i will go with the latter. and i think you may have flown in an Antonov, but i know you have never flown one. unless you are the guy that brought the one that is parked in memphis right now?? hahahahahahaha, or you saw it and thought you would make up the story of flying one. sorry for the long post, i just had to call you out on all the dumb stuff you say.
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:26 AM
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I love lamp... and online translators are sweet! Has everyone noticed that the Pinnacle threads consist on every current pinnacle employee saying they liked the job and people but the contract is an issue, and there are a few choice people who chime in and either were turned down in an interview (bitter), left during training for another regional (cannot give any negative reasons toward 9E- just were trying for another one from the beginning), or won't even say they ever worked for PNCL and will not say where they currently work. Maybe its just me- but it seems almost pointless to keep defending something that should not need to be defended. If you don't want to work for a company- DON'T. If you want to bash something/someone/some company-KNOW YOUR FACTS. On this site you WILL get called out for BS because too many people know the truth FIRST HAND. There are a million reasons why people work for different companies. Heck- Horizon won the award for top regional but most people on this site are saying to go to Xjet or AW. Some don't want to commute, some want a quick upgrade, some want or don't want to fly props, some are in it just for the highest FO pay, some look for places to make a career, and some just want to get a little jet time to go to the regional they originally wanted (the low timers). The facts of Pinnacle are well known, for some its a great mix, for others it may be too risky or just hell. Frankly horizon would not be a convenient commute and I want the PIC time, but I am not going to bash them for it because I want their contract here!
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Y si hablas espanol, eres el mas hijo de puta que e visto en mi vida, morron retrasado mental, eres un asqueroso que no vales ni el aire que respiras. Eres un ejemplo perfecto que la aviacion esta lleno de hijos de putas.

Mejor termina con los ataques estupido y muestra respecto y termina con mentiras y cambiar todo lo que digo. Que mierda tu te crees insultandome? Retrasado mental. No entiendes el Ingles? debes ser un perdido que te crees piloto o un estupido y seguramente asafata que te crees mas de lo que eres. No creo que trabajes donde dices ni que eres piloto porque no hay pilotos tan estupidos. No puede ser. Cuidado a quien tratas de joder y insultar, ya me cansaste. Cuida tu boca mientras la tienes imbecil. Y mejor que no te encuentre o te voy a meter tu tubo de "Airsupport" por el culo. Aunque hasta creo que te gustaria. Aprende a respectar a la gente y a saber los limites. Atrevido de mierda. No seras ese pelado gordo asqueroso, no? facilmente te encuentro.

take care, Pal and stay away if you are smart
careful, you will get banned for the personal threats of attacking me.. you are crazy man. you seriously have mental problems. there is no way you are 45 year old veteran and acting this way, i am half your age and twice as mature. and we used to be such good friends..

Originally Posted by theskyisclear View Post
I have some questions regarding Pinnacle new hire.

What base (domicile) are they sending the new hire at this moment?

How does the Hotel situation during training in MEM work? Are you given a room the first day in Class or is all that arranged before starting training?

Is the Sim training done with Flight Safety instructors or Company instructors?

how many free days are the new hired (allready on IOE) getting per month?

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Any base you want.

300 bucks a week, double occupancy, the company will fly you down here and give you a hotel whenever you want, you just have to tell them and make arrangements.

Sim training is done at flight safety with pinnacle instructors. We have bought all the time in 3 of the sims here in memphis, and they are also sending people to clt and stl for sim training.

10 days off min,, and that is all you will get.
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Thanks for the answers!

here are a few more questions............


Are there any other bases than MEM, Minneapolis and Detroit?

Does the company provide transportation from Corporate office to Flight safety for the SIM or how does that work?

How do the guys that do not have cars in MEM get to and from class? Hotel shutle?

What time does class usually start and end?
so do you still work at pinnacle? i read some of your other posts and it sounds like you interviewed and got hired.


Originally Posted by higney85 View Post
I love lamp... and online translators are sweet! Has everyone noticed that the Pinnacle threads consist on every current pinnacle employee saying they liked the job and people but the contract is an issue, and there are a few choice people who chime in and either were turned down in an interview (bitter), left during training for another regional (cannot give any negative reasons toward 9E- just were trying for another one from the beginning), or won't even say they ever worked for PNCL and will not say where they currently work. Maybe its just me- but it seems almost pointless to keep defending something that should not need to be defended. If you don't want to work for a company- DON'T. If you want to bash something/someone/some company-KNOW YOUR FACTS. On this site you WILL get called out for BS because too many people know the truth FIRST HAND. There are a million reasons why people work for different companies. Heck- Horizon won the award for top regional but most people on this site are saying to go to Xjet or AW. Some don't want to commute, some want a quick upgrade, some want or don't want to fly props, some are in it just for the highest FO pay, some look for places to make a career, and some just want to get a little jet time to go to the regional they originally wanted (the low timers). The facts of Pinnacle are well known, for some its a great mix, for others it may be too risky or just hell. Frankly horizon would not be a convenient commute and I want the PIC time, but I am not going to bash them for it because I want their contract here!
my thoughts exactly. happy to be here, and ready to make improvements. and waiting on another 200hrs to upgrade!! man i feel bad though for the guys who are upgrading with such low seniority. they will be on reserve for ever.. but they do say being a reserve captain is way better than being a reserve f.o.

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Old 07-11-2007, 06:24 AM
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Is Pinnacle hiring street captains or at least the "short" upgrade for qualified people? Just looing at the possibility of a base change for family reasons.

What type of upgrade time for already typed CL-65 captain?

Thanks,

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Old 07-11-2007, 08:00 AM
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Is Pinnacle hiring street captains or at least the "short" upgrade for qualified people? Just looing at the possibility of a base change for family reasons.

What type of upgrade time for already typed CL-65 captain?

Thanks,

Eric
remember street captain is a different term than what is going on at pinnacle. pinnacle is not hiring street captains. you would have to get hired and then see if you could hold a captain spot based on seniority. and if you were hired today you could go straight to captain right out of new hire training if you have the time. there were about 30 capt spots that couldn't be filled. just remember like i said earlier, you would be on reserve for a couple of years. but if you need the money and pic now, you can do it.
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:47 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that and send my condolences. Don't buy anything until you pass the checkride in three months from now. A few will get left behind and others will leave when the get a feel for the company; It is like having a bad STD and will rub you wrong every day. As for paycheck deductions, the only ones are for uniform ($16 for your plastic wings), $300 for the leather jacket (that you can purchase elsewhere for $80) and anytime you jumpseat and the NWA gate agent happens to code you wrong (want to fix it? Sorry, they can't do that). As for jepp binders, they give you crappy plastic ones (no need to invest in nice leathers when nobody stays longer than a year). Good luck at that hotel and don't answer the door when the hookers knock at 2am..great neighborhood next to the mem airport. Expect to have at least one of your classmate's car broken into guaranteed.

Solution.....go elsewhere.

Plastic Wings??? Did you flunk out and get the kiddy wings as a consolation?

NWA agents entering the wrong code??? Never happened to me but since it seems to be a recurring problem for you why don't you learn the Pinnacle code, after all it's only two letters (9E)...


On a serious note, as other Pinnacle pilots mention the present contract and working conditions leave much to be desired. However the pilot group is great and will not settle for a sub-par contract. When we get our new contract, Pinnacle will be a very good regional to work for.

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