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04-16-2024 | 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 60av8tor

I seriously don't understand the shaving thing. Your employer makes decisions based on your facial hair? They're gonna can you if your chin is smooth? I don't even see how this would be a topic of discussion in a legit work environment. I mean, if you show up with a beard when one is not allowed, sure, but you chose to lose the beard; what's the issue?

Because suddenly shaving off my beard when I've never done so in the past is an indicator that I have a foot out the door.

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I'm confused. Are you for or against them mandating you be clean shaven. I think the reasoning is that the oxygen mask wont seal against a beard very well. Same in the chemical plants. They have to be clean shaven so they can put on a mask in case of an inadvertant gas release. If a safety guy sees you with stubble, you are fired immediately, escorted to the gate and your credentials revoked...

The masks will still provide O2 with a beard and almost every country outside the US allows flight crews with facial hair.

04-16-2024 | 07:16 PM

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Doesn't matter to the topic of discussion which is below. And FWIW I think the mask deal is bogus. Apples and oranges O2 delivery and a chemical seal IMO. Pretty sure a few American carriers now allow beards.

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Because suddenly shaving off my beard when I've never done so in the past is an indicator that I have a foot out the door.

Or possibly it's your face and you can choose to shave your beard off if you choose to do so... is that a crazy idea? So you shave and you're fired? You've lost me on this. Are you that fearful of your current boss?

04-17-2024 | 04:54 AM

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LOL what a clown comment. Get real dude.

1. No it dosnt prevent oxygen from getting to you
2. No you won't get fired ESPECIALLY if you are at a sane airline with a union

Can't stop laughing at this comment 😂😂

04-17-2024 | 05:20 AM

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Maybe he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express the night before his SkyWest interview...

04-17-2024 | 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BusBoe

Calm down. I didn't say I agree with it, or even care. Who said someone at an airline would get fired for having stubble? I was saying that they have it better than guys working at chemical plants.

04-17-2024 | 07:11 PM

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Calm down. I didn't say I agree with it, or even care. Who said someone at an airline would get fired for having stubble? I was saying that they have it better than guys working at chemical plants.

I think you missed my original comments on this. I didn't want to shave for any interviews or meetings with recruiters because then my current employer would know I'm looking for another job.

04-17-2024 | 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TaylorPilot

You're out of the loop. All of the above is irrelevant.

121noob is afraid that his employer will find out he's looking for work, if 121noob shaves. We've had lengthy discussions about this on this site before.

He's also maintained that he's doing an idential job to Netjets...but at a company where he isn't required to shave. It's one of the many eccentricities that make up the web of excuses for 121noob.

The wonderment is that he's surprised he can't find a job. The world must have stopped hiring, if he can't find a job.

Cue the entitlement (again)...

04-18-2024 | 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 121noob

No, it's not irrelevant because they can meter their flow to almost nothing if they feel they need to. And I've been working on getting a better job for a few months now with no takers.

You wrote that your just over 1500 hrs. Applying to the majors and LCC's. That TT probably isn't competitive right now. That's not including how much MEL or PIC time you have. It looks like the 1600-2000 TT LCC hiring might have sailed.

There's agreements in place, at least at AA a couple of years ago, as to what percentage of the total hiring is reserved for flow throughs. If hiring drops to zero flows drop to zero.

04-18-2024 | 04:39 AM

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I think you missed my original comments on this. I didn't want to shave for any interviews or meetings with recruiters because then my current employer would know I'm looking for another job.

Well then don't shave for meetings with recruiters or onterviews. Just shave because you decided you no longer want to have a beard. I've had mustaches, beards, and goatees on and of for 40 years. Long hair, short hair, shaved head, etc.