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Old 08-15-2007 | 02:02 PM
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I can't send you a PM, and I didn't get a ballot.
Yeah, call anyone on the commitee if you cant PM yet. Glad to see your support though! Voting is really easy, just call, enter your number and cast your vote.

Spread the word too... call all your buddies. We have a great opportunity to do something great here- make our company, our industry, and our lives a whole lot better.

Feel free to ask any questions you might have about anything bro.
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Old 08-15-2007 | 04:38 PM
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Still dont see how ALPA is going to change anything. Only resaon that colgan has these codeshares is because they do it for less. If they raise the pay for us. The codeshares could get there flying form another company. Like mesa. I feel we are all being put in bad position. Join ALPA and get put on the bottom of the senority list. Whenever it happens, and I feel like it will. Or, dont join and who knows what could happen. I am for a union. Just ALPA isn't the one. We can find a better union, if we looked.
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Old 08-15-2007 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluboy340
Still dont see how ALPA is going to change anything. Only resaon that colgan has these codeshares is because they do it for less. If they raise the pay for us. The codeshares could get there flying form another company. Like mesa. I feel we are all being put in bad position. Join ALPA and get put on the bottom of the senority list. Whenever it happens, and I feel like it will. Or, dont join and who knows what could happen. I am for a union. Just ALPA isn't the one. We can find a better union, if we looked.
Join ALPA and get put to the bottom of the seniority list? It's obvious you haven't looked more into it, it is actually the opposite. What other unions have you looked into? I know the OC guys looked into them, there is no in house union at the regional level, an in house can't sustain itself at the regional level. Teamsters get you the contract, but ALPA is a professional association with a union.

BTW cheaper is not the reason we have gotten some of our contracts. We were undercut on our Continental flying but it was awarded to us.
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Old 08-15-2007 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluboy340
Still dont see how ALPA is going to change anything. Only resaon that colgan has these codeshares is because they do it for less. If they raise the pay for us. The codeshares could get there flying form another company. Like mesa. I feel we are all being put in bad position. Join ALPA and get put on the bottom of the senority list. Whenever it happens, and I feel like it will. Or, dont join and who knows what could happen. I am for a union. Just ALPA isn't the one. We can find a better union, if we looked.
Im sorry to see that you dont think we need more money. $26 an hour for second year pay on a 74 seat plane is a little below average id say .

I agree that we are in a bad position, and by no means do I think ALPA will solve all of our problems... but ask anyone who has been violated by the FAA while here at Colgan- they were left out to dry.

When the Beech 1900 is phased out, I think this airline is going to change. It's hard to say whats going to happen with the senority list- but it's up the pilots. ALPA, or anyone but COLGAN, can't force us to do anything. Pinnacle sticks to wanting two seperate airlines running, and it sounds like thats what most guys want.

As far as other unions, never before has the pilot group been so unified- and it would probably be a struggle to get them all together again after the 1 year wait is up if the union is declined.

I know IAH is pretty much on board, and most of my fellow Beech FOs, but what about in the Northern SAAB bases?
I'd like to see the Beech have the same work rules as the SAAB as a starting point. No reason we should be punished.
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Old 08-15-2007 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluboy340
Still dont see how ALPA is going to change anything. Only resaon that colgan has these codeshares is because they do it for less. If they raise the pay for us. The codeshares could get there flying form another company. Like mesa. I feel we are all being put in bad position. Join ALPA and get put on the bottom of the senority list. Whenever it happens, and I feel like it will. Or, dont join and who knows what could happen. I am for a union. Just ALPA isn't the one. We can find a better union, if we looked.
And I dont want to be the guy that does it for less.

I'm that kind of guy that wants sandwiches stocked in the fridge at hub bases for us.
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