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#51
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
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Yep, there are some three fms flows. I am going to disregard those for now. Like I said the limitations section says that the boxed items in the graph must be committed to memmory. I am not sure how to memmorize a bunch of numbers in a graph. ie. page 1-3
and what about all the orange tabs?
ie page 2-17 and on... that's a lot of stuff to memmorize
Are the callouts done for memmory too or do you use a checklist?
Sorry for all the questions. This is all new to me.
I appreciate your help
and what about all the orange tabs?
ie page 2-17 and on... that's a lot of stuff to memmorize
Are the callouts done for memmory too or do you use a checklist?
Sorry for all the questions. This is all new to me.
I appreciate your help
As far as the boxed limitations on the graphs, you should have a sheet with all of the limitations and memory items written out with blanks for the numbers. Fill that out using the limitations section and then make flashcards from that.
You don't need to memorize everything in the orange tabs. Just those items that have memory items (like "Engine Failure in Flight, Aborted Takeoff, Engine Fire on the Ground, etc). There are no memory items for stuff like "Low Hydraulic Pressure". Those orange tabs are the equivalent of the QRH in the airplane and some of those procedures are very long and very complicated. Just make sure you know how to use them (basically follow a flow chart).
Normal callouts are done from memory (ie "set thrust, thrust set, 80 kts, V1, rotate etc.). Checklist responses are done with the checklist.
Hope that answers some questions. It can be confusing at first but it will all become clear when you get to class. Focus on the flows for now and ask lots of questions when you get there.
#52
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: EMB135BJ SIC
Posts: 205
Callouts like those used on a normal takeoff and alike are from memory.....just gotta know it.
Hope that helps..... Study up.
#53
If you are talking about XJT, you really might want to be sure those are 3 FMS flows you are looking at. I've never heard of em and I know we don't have any 3 FMS birds.
As far as the boxed limitations on the graphs, you should have a sheet with all of the limitations and memory items written out with blanks for the numbers. Fill that out using the limitations section and then make flashcards from that.
You don't need to memorize everything in the orange tabs. Just those items that have memory items (like "Engine Failure in Flight, Aborted Takeoff, Engine Fire on the Ground, etc). There are no memory items for stuff like "Low Hydraulic Pressure". Those orange tabs are the equivalent of the QRH in the airplane and some of those procedures are very long and very complicated. Just make sure you know how to use them (basically follow a flow chart).
Normal callouts are done from memory (ie "set thrust, thrust set, 80 kts, V1, rotate etc.). Checklist responses are done with the checklist.
Hope that answers some questions. It can be confusing at first but it will all become clear when you get to class. Focus on the flows for now and ask lots of questions when you get there.
As far as the boxed limitations on the graphs, you should have a sheet with all of the limitations and memory items written out with blanks for the numbers. Fill that out using the limitations section and then make flashcards from that.
You don't need to memorize everything in the orange tabs. Just those items that have memory items (like "Engine Failure in Flight, Aborted Takeoff, Engine Fire on the Ground, etc). There are no memory items for stuff like "Low Hydraulic Pressure". Those orange tabs are the equivalent of the QRH in the airplane and some of those procedures are very long and very complicated. Just make sure you know how to use them (basically follow a flow chart).
Normal callouts are done from memory (ie "set thrust, thrust set, 80 kts, V1, rotate etc.). Checklist responses are done with the checklist.
Hope that answers some questions. It can be confusing at first but it will all become clear when you get to class. Focus on the flows for now and ask lots of questions when you get there.
Thanks! I am looking at the flows now. I think the three one is just a typo or something. The schematic is very weak but I can only make out one fms from the pic. I'll just memmorize it.
Do you guys know of any quick reference study guides out there?
I have heard of CGPorter and http://www.aviationgroundschool.com/
but the flightcrewdog one doesn't seem to be online anymore.
#54
"As far as the boxed limitations on the graphs, you should have a sheet with all of the limitations and memory items written out with blanks for the numbers. Fill that out using the limitations section and then make flashcards from that."
oh and I searched everywhere but we didn't get this. Do you have a copy?
oh and I searched everywhere but we didn't get this. Do you have a copy?
#55
I thought the pages with three FMSs shown signify that the flows are used in both the single and dual FMS aircraft? That's how I've understood them, or maybe you're talking about something else.
#56
Correct...those are flows for both 1 & 2 FMS aircraft. There are No, as in NONE 3 FMS aircraft at Xjt. The ops limit fill-out sheet is not being handed out to new-hires anymore. Find all the boxed limitations and make notecards and you'll be fine.
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