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08-05-2010 | 09:57 PM
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08-06-2010 | 05:56 AM
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From: Missionary
let me get this right....it's not okay to pick up open time according to who? In the past the union has come out and said to not pick up open time. This is not the case at this time. From what I can see, some people are picking it up and some people are grumbling about the fact that those people are picking up EF. There isn't much that seems too organized about it. The flying is being done, either by EF'ers or by people that get JM'ed.
BTW, I have never picked up EF (even before there were furloughs; I'm lazy) but have been JM'ed a lot.
BTW, I have never picked up EF (even before there were furloughs; I'm lazy) but have been JM'ed a lot.
The company says we're overstaffed, so they put a bunch of people on the streets. When the system malfunctions (blizzard, runway construction in JFK, or the wind blows the wrong direction in ATL), they start involuntarily jm'ing. For the people left on property, crew sched. tries to assign illegal trips to plug the gaps, lines are for crap, jm'ing is rampant, reserves become crazy senior and everyone is miserable. ALL these events build a case for the union that we're not "right sized" at all, and need to recall!
Along comes Timmy Toolbag and says, "Garsh...I'll take that open trip! I need the extra cash for the ComiCon convention!"
The company says, "See, ALPA...we don't need no stinking recalls!"
If Timmy needs the extra cash, he can sell his near-mint copy of "The Smurfs, #1"...but don't make the case for the company when people are on furlough.
Mmmkay?!
08-06-2010 | 06:18 AM
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Let me get this right...you don't understand this?
The company says we're overstaffed, so they put a bunch of people on the streets. When the system malfunctions (blizzard, runway construction in JFK, or the wind blows the wrong direction in ATL), they start involuntarily jm'ing. For the people left on property, crew sched. tries to assign illegal trips to plug the gaps, lines are for crap, jm'ing is rampant, reserves become crazy senior and everyone is miserable. ALL these events build a case for the union that we're not "right sized" at all, and need to recall!
Along comes Timmy Toolbag and says, "Garsh...I'll take that open trip! I need the extra cash for the ComiCon convention!"
The company says, "See, ALPA...we don't need no stinking recalls!"
If Timmy needs the extra cash, he can sell his near-mint copy of "The Smurfs, #1"...but don't make the case for the company when people are on furlough.
Mmmkay?!
The company says we're overstaffed, so they put a bunch of people on the streets. When the system malfunctions (blizzard, runway construction in JFK, or the wind blows the wrong direction in ATL), they start involuntarily jm'ing. For the people left on property, crew sched. tries to assign illegal trips to plug the gaps, lines are for crap, jm'ing is rampant, reserves become crazy senior and everyone is miserable. ALL these events build a case for the union that we're not "right sized" at all, and need to recall!
Along comes Timmy Toolbag and says, "Garsh...I'll take that open trip! I need the extra cash for the ComiCon convention!"
The company says, "See, ALPA...we don't need no stinking recalls!"
If Timmy needs the extra cash, he can sell his near-mint copy of "The Smurfs, #1"...but don't make the case for the company when people are on furlough.
Mmmkay?!
08-06-2010 | 06:59 AM
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From: Missionary
Fault isn't the issue!
If all recall's are back, knock yourself out!
The union has been making a case of understaffing for almost 2 years to get us back on property.
At the risk of sounding like Spoilers, what's so frickin' hard to understand about this?!
Picking up time with guys on the street 'cause you've gotta' make your moped payment is self-serving...it allows the company to make do with fewer pilots. (That's why we've got senior f/o's on reserve again, 12 years to capt. and almost 20 year reserve capt's.)
08-06-2010 | 07:00 AM
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Let me get this right...you don't understand this?
The company says we're overstaffed, so they put a bunch of people on the streets. When the system malfunctions (blizzard, runway construction in JFK, or the wind blows the wrong direction in ATL), they start involuntarily jm'ing. For the people left on property, crew sched. tries to assign illegal trips to plug the gaps, lines are for crap, jm'ing is rampant, reserves become crazy senior and everyone is miserable. ALL these events build a case for the union that we're not "right sized" at all, and need to recall!
Along comes Timmy Toolbag and says, "Garsh...I'll take that open trip! I need the extra cash for the ComiCon convention!"
The company says, "See, ALPA...we don't need no stinking recalls!"
If Timmy needs the extra cash, he can sell his near-mint copy of "The Smurfs, #1"...but don't make the case for the company when people are on furlough.
Mmmkay?!
The company says we're overstaffed, so they put a bunch of people on the streets. When the system malfunctions (blizzard, runway construction in JFK, or the wind blows the wrong direction in ATL), they start involuntarily jm'ing. For the people left on property, crew sched. tries to assign illegal trips to plug the gaps, lines are for crap, jm'ing is rampant, reserves become crazy senior and everyone is miserable. ALL these events build a case for the union that we're not "right sized" at all, and need to recall!
Along comes Timmy Toolbag and says, "Garsh...I'll take that open trip! I need the extra cash for the ComiCon convention!"
The company says, "See, ALPA...we don't need no stinking recalls!"
If Timmy needs the extra cash, he can sell his near-mint copy of "The Smurfs, #1"...but don't make the case for the company when people are on furlough.
Mmmkay?!
08-06-2010 | 07:02 AM
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If 100 pilots have 75 hour lines and each one picks up 10 hrs of open time per month consistently, don't you think management would take that into consideration when calculating staffing levels??
That's 1,000 hours of flying per month that could be used to construct 12-13 lines worth of flying. As close as I am to recall, I take that very personally.
IMO, the only thing worse than picking up open time with furloughed brothers and sisters under you, is scabbing.
08-06-2010 | 07:08 AM
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From: OH CA - Retired
Let me get this right...you don't understand this?
The company says we're overstaffed, so they put a bunch of people on the streets. When the system malfunctions (blizzard, runway construction in JFK, or the wind blows the wrong direction in ATL), they start involuntarily jm'ing. For the people left on property, crew sched. tries to assign illegal trips to plug the gaps, lines are for crap, jm'ing is rampant, reserves become crazy senior and everyone is miserable. ALL these events build a case for the union that we're not "right sized" at all, and need to recall!
Along comes Timmy Toolbag and says, "Garsh...I'll take that open trip! I need the extra cash for the ComiCon convention!"
The company says, "See, ALPA...we don't need no stinking recalls!"
If Timmy needs the extra cash, he can sell his near-mint copy of "The Smurfs, #1"...but don't make the case for the company when people are on furlough.
Mmmkay?!
The company says we're overstaffed, so they put a bunch of people on the streets. When the system malfunctions (blizzard, runway construction in JFK, or the wind blows the wrong direction in ATL), they start involuntarily jm'ing. For the people left on property, crew sched. tries to assign illegal trips to plug the gaps, lines are for crap, jm'ing is rampant, reserves become crazy senior and everyone is miserable. ALL these events build a case for the union that we're not "right sized" at all, and need to recall!
Along comes Timmy Toolbag and says, "Garsh...I'll take that open trip! I need the extra cash for the ComiCon convention!"
The company says, "See, ALPA...we don't need no stinking recalls!"
If Timmy needs the extra cash, he can sell his near-mint copy of "The Smurfs, #1"...but don't make the case for the company when people are on furlough.
Mmmkay?!
Until then, all this grousing about who or who isn't picking up (or being JM'ed for) open time is accomplishing nothing. Wait a minute, it does accomplish something: it gives people a scapegoat they can take out their anger on.
One other thing I would also mention is that we were understaffed before furloughs, we are understaffed now, and we will be understaffed when they all come back. Capisci?
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