Oh yes. Very much a matter of principle... I have a solid job and it's a money thing.
No I do not want a bill. I agreed to 25$ per paycheck. That's the deal. It's not my fault they aren't sending me paychecks!

 

No, it's not your fault they aren't sending you paychecks anymore and have closed, but if you owe the money then you owe the money. You bought the uniforms knowing that you'd owe for them and basically they "fronted" you the money for the uniforms so you didn't have to pay for them all up front and could spread out the payments.

And regardless of whether you voluntarily terminated or the company closed, you are no longer employed. It would be the same thing if you were fired, you would owe the balance out of your last paycheck or be sent to collections. Just because you don't voluntarily quit doesn't mean you just get out of debts.

 

I don't see why everyone is all about me paying this back regardless of the circumstances!

I made a deal. A SIGNED agreement that was written by the company! Why am I the one who is expected to go above and beyond they deal they created? Why can't I just follow what was agreed upon at the time...

 

Because we all paid our uniform balance and don't see why it should be different for you.

The balance was due upon termination of employment. The company does not exist. All employees, active and furloughed, have been terminated.

 

I almost forgot - it's not different for him. They took the money, as well they should have, and he's upset about it. Thus, a non-issue.

 

This is America!!! Why should I have to pay my debt if they were stupid enough to loan me money!

Where is my free phone? I have rights!!!!

 

Honestly as a 10/08 Furloughee I wasn't expecting any severance and half expected a bill for unpaid uniforms. I'm fine with how it was handled this way. Clears any potential unpaid debt (think credit history) and now I get a tax write off for uniform expenses at the end of the year. Comair was a big ol crap sandwich and we just got our last bite. Good-bye and good riddance.

 

And just to be clear, I didn't mean it as a personal dig against superpilotjesse. I know the guy outside of apc and he is a good guy. I just disagree with him on this topic.

 

With out having read the actual language of the agreement, I agree in principle.

Would he have purchased the uniforms without the expectation of continued employment? Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'm guessing they were purchased for this specific job. Why does the company not bear some burden of responsibility for having planned poorly? The agreement was x$ per paycheck, with the implied understanding that those paychecks would continue until the debt (incurred for this specific job) was repaid.

Delta CHOSE to shut down the company - they should eat it, not the individual. If they choose to keep him on in some capacity until the debt is repaid - that's fine. If HE chooses to leave before that time, he should bear the burden of repayment.

I'm amazed at the overall consensus on this one! Mother Delta made a choice - that choice had costs associated with it. It is not the burden of the employee to bear the costs of their poor planning and decision making.

 

I'd agree if they didn't allow to payroll deduct anytthing form the employee store such as luggage, flight kits, headsets, etc that can still be used at other aviation employers. There were stories of guys racking up 1200 dollars of goodies on payroll deduct.

I'm fine if you want to say the company should eat the cost of the blazer, pants, hat, and tie, which probably can't be used at a different company, but the rest you should have to pay.

But 300 bucks for a roll aboard, 150 for a flight kit, and possibly 500 for a headset should definitely be on the individual.