rickair7777

Saab, get real...at this moment I'm actually wondering if you are really a line pilot at a 121 operation. Try going to your next PC (or your upgrade ride) and tell the sim guy that you're not going to use the TR's cuz they don't do anything. Better yet, on your next trip tell the CA that you're not going to use the TR's on your legs....Good Luck!

The real reason we use TR's in daily operations: So you don't cook the brakes on every landing and take a 1 hour delay to cool them down (or a 3 hour delay for Mx inspection and/or new wheels).

BTW, the TR's have kept me on the runway at least once, in 2004 I think. Braking action was misreported, and the nose wheel ended up on the numbers...of the departure end

JoeyMeatballs

You serious? Our CA's for the most part get annoyed when people use them, they really dont stop the airplane that much better than braking alone. ( 5-10% on a dry runway) (WET Runway I actually think it helps a ton so I am contracdicting myself but you get the point, if ya dont then just disregard

Rickair, Get real do some research on just how effective they really are......... I didnt say I dont ever use them but there not a magic Lever that stops the airplane in 1,000ft

rickair7777

OK, you're on the ERJ (which I've never flown). Are TR's optional during a sim ride? They are not optional on the CRJ, you always use them unless one is MEL'ed. Larger, heavier jets are designed with enough brake capacity to stop without TR's, but not enough to do a quick turn after landing on a 7000' runway on a warm day.

You are doing Phoenix a real disservice if you convince him to go to an interview and state the the TR's will not be a problem because he does not have to use them.

EDIT: Phoenix, if you're still following all this I am somewhat concerned with the whole hand-switching concept. If there's any way to possibly avoid that, try to figure it out. If you just have to do it, then take your best shot. Your challenge on the CRJ will be maintaining pitch AND roll inputs in a X-wind LDG while also deploying the TR's.

UPS1856

You don't think he is prepared for stumbling blocks? Sounds like he has jumped more hurdles in his short career than you will ever attain in your right seat of the CRJ.

Having said in my previous post I was typed in the CRJ and ERJ should have given you a hint that I did fly pax in a not so distant past.

With over 3,800 of worthless posts, I would think you could read a bit better than that. You crawled out from under J/O over to Skywest and still that bitter? Maybe you should sit this one out and let the adults handle this. Maybe Flight Info is better suited for your needs and "expertise".

PAX care about paying $49 one way to see Grandma and being somewhat on time. 99% of the people will never see you carry them A to B.

cyrcadian

Take a step back junior. All I am trying to get across is that if I have my TRs I want to use them and should be able to do so with no problem. If I could Fred Flintstone to a stop I would.

Like Rick said, we are dealing with the CRJ here not the ERJ which I know nothing about as well. Just because your company line philosophy dictates you don't deploy them doesn't mean that everyone else shouldn't.

cyrcadian

Another thought:

Two of the memory items on the CRJ emergency checklist call for reverse thrust: Rejected Takeoff and Asymmetric Braking/Loss of Braking. Effective enough for the emergency checklist, effective enough for me.

andy171773

In my opinion i think if you can manipulate the yoke, including the AP disconnect, trim, trim disconnect, sync button (on a CRJ) and PTT for the mic, then you should be fine from the right seat...since the left hand will do most of the work on the FCP, throttles, switches, and flashy lights

But a left seat position with that "switch" is highly unlikely, and i can only see that as being "safe" on the ground.

Keep up your great attitude, and you have absolutely nothing to lose by interviewing and seeing what the recruiters, HR, and captains have to say.

Keep your chin up, but don't expect to get it easily..if at all.


Happy trails

PhoenixFlood

Yeah, I'm pretty aware of some of the other jets that don't have the most friendly TR's. The Citation comes to mind with the little finger lifts. Those would require a hand swap from the left seat.

You do deploy the TR's once all three are planted, correct? How long does it take to swap hands, for me anyway since I'm use to flying that way, about a blink of an eye. Cross wind control inputs, check, TR's deploy with the left hand.

As fas a public apperance is. I worry about it, but I figured it's probably on par with the appearance of a kid who can barely shave being thrown into the right seat.

I'm currently instructing a paraylzed guy for his private. Watching him swap between the throttle and rudder bar we had installed in his plane is like watching a duck swim. I had him in 15 knot direct crosswinds in his Colt and he greased them. I've flown with comemrcial students and would have to check my fillings in that same situation.

A captain at an undisclosed airline has said there was a company wide memo saying buckets only, no TR's due to FOD damage. From what I hear I guess it's helped.

I'll interview hopefully and get a sim checkout. I'll show them why they need to hire me.

Also, I submited my case before AOPA, all my medical history and facts with my SODA.

Here was there response:
"Since the issuance of the Americans with disabilities act, I think you would have the same change of being hired by the Regionals as anyone. If you have any problems with this, please contact me and I will be happy to assist you.

Jo Ann Wilson
Senior Medical Certification
TechnicianMedical Certification Department800.872.2672"

Lighteningspeed

I admire your courage. Keep your dream alive. Pursue your goal with all your heart, and it will happen. Keep us posted. We are all brothers in pursuit of our wild blue yonder.

PhoenixFlood

So, where do you want to meet for dinner? I just passed my checkride today in the ERJ-170.