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Old 10-13-2007 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
Yea, I know. Not my pension. I was at XJT when they IPO'd. I got on after the new contract too. No A fund for me. I did hold 737 CA at 2.5 years, so I'll try to make up for it with the blended rate of $150.80/hour.
thats awesome, I just hope I have a job in a year
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Old 10-13-2007 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
I just hope I have a job in a year
It would suck but you knew going in that CAL had cut flying. You know me, I was very anti-go-to-XJT two years ago, it was for this reason (job security). Anyone that has gone to XJT after 12/2005 (when CAL announced the cut) took a bigger gamble that they would be gainfully employed there.

Personally I hope XJT keeps adding bigger aircraft, we need you guys to hold up those pay rates and work rules. ASA, AWAC, and Horizon can't do it alone!
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Old 10-13-2007 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fosters
It would suck but you knew going in that CAL had cut flying. You know me, I was very anti-go-to-XJT two years ago, it was for this reason (job security). Anyone that has gone to XJT after 12/2005 (when CAL announced the cut) took a bigger gamble that they would be gainfully employed there.

Personally I hope XJT keeps adding bigger aircraft, we need you guys to hold up those pay rates and work rules. ASA, AWAC, and Horizon can't do it alone!
I hear ya, I knew what I was in for, I am hoping for the best but seems like not much good news lately. Funny one day day you worry about upgrading within three years, the next week, the topic of conversation is if we furloughed if I would have a job. Its the airline industry what can I say.............
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Old 10-13-2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Funny one day day you worry about upgrading within three years, the next week, the topic of conversation is if we furloughed if I would have a job. Its the airline industry what can I say.............
No kidding, look at Mesaba, 7 year upgrades then practically overnight street captains. Insane.
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Old 10-13-2007 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fosters
It would suck but you knew going in that CAL had cut flying. You know me, I was very anti-go-to-XJT two years ago, it was for this reason (job security). Anyone that has gone to XJT after 12/2005 (when CAL announced the cut) took a bigger gamble that they would be gainfully employed there.

Personally I hope XJT keeps adding bigger aircraft, we need you guys to hold up those pay rates and work rules. ASA, AWAC, and Horizon can't do it alone!
Does XJT have larger aircraft pay in their current contract? If not then you'll see the same thing that's happened at RAH which we all know how people complain about that.
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Old 10-13-2007 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Does XJT have larger aircraft pay in their current contract? If not then you'll see the same thing that's happened at RAH which we all know how people complain about that.
no, we dont have a payscale for larger equiptment, but if we got larger A/C you can bet your a$$ we would be getting more money than you guys, being as though our 50 seat pay is right there with your 70 seat pay................


I dont see larger a/c in our future............
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Old 10-13-2007 | 04:08 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much if I were you guys. Why? because, it's the same old management tactic to scare pilots into worrying frenzy in order keep us down where they want us. You can bet your dollar that XJT management is cooking up some deals with other airlines as we discuss this. Prospect for regional flying has never been this good. Why you may ask? All majors are shifting more of their domestic flying to regionals so they can concentrate on international flying. International flying is where the real moneys at.
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Old 10-13-2007 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
no, we dont have a payscale for larger equiptment, but if we got larger A/C you can bet your a$$ we would be getting more money than you guys, being as though our 50 seat pay is right there with your 70 seat pay................


I dont see larger a/c in our future............
Why should management pay you guys more when they wouldn't have to?
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Old 10-13-2007 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Why should management pay you guys more when they wouldn't have to?
Ask that exact question to every AA, DAL, CAL, NWA, UAL, SWA, UPS, FDX pilot and see how many friends you make at the end of the day. You and pilots like you are the reason they don't have to. Sellout.....

Ya international is where it is all at, just look at TWA, Eastern, and Pan Am. All of them had great international routes and lost focus on domestic feed.
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Old 10-13-2007 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cybourg10
Ask that exact question to every AA, DAL, CAL, NWA, UAL, SWA, UPS, FDX pilot and see how many friends you make at the end of the day. You and pilots like you are the reason they don't have to. Sellout.....

Ya international is where it is all at, just look at TWA, Eastern, and Pan Am. All of them had great international routes and lost focus on domestic feed.
Perhaps you should think before you speak. It was a rhetorical question. They are speaking of XJT getting bigger planes and expecting higher pay. However SKW, RAH, Comair haven't stepped up the bar with their pay. Why should they expect anything more out of XJT when it's not on paper. Management doesn't give anything for free.

ya international is where it is? Where is this coming from? Did you bother reading everything prior to posting?
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