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Old 10-10-2007 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
Are there so many guys going to each one that there are no staffing issues?
I think MIA is the only domicile where you might run into this problem. In that case, you either wait and take a later class or choose SJU and bid for MIA during training. Pretty much all the other bases are wide open - meaning you pick a base and start training as soon as able.
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Old 10-11-2007 | 06:49 AM
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Has upgrade time dropped any or is it still 7 years.
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Old 10-11-2007 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DANCRJ
I friend of mine was invited to interview with them recently. He finished a CRJ transition program and he has around 330TT. He turned them down anyways. (upgrade time, pick your own base bull****) I don't balme him. I would do the same.
Yeah well, with 330 total hrs we all should be taking advice from this clown...............
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Old 10-11-2007 | 06:57 AM
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mia is a very very senior base as far as captains and even new FO's. When I was there the staffing issues in SJU were so horrible that you would always see mia guys down there flying.
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Old 10-11-2007 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DANCRJ
Blame, I didn't check my spelling......whatever..... he's with another airline which I think is better for his particular situation. He's a great pilot, I'd rather fly with him that any other 600TT CFI in a Cessna. 60 hrs of CRJ FTD in a very intense program is worth much more for me that a couple of hundred hours in a cessna flying around an airport. But anyways, I respect any path you or anybody here decided to take to get to the airlines. The CFI way is a great one but not for everybody, and If you, me or anybody else took it, doesn't mean is the best or the only one. So please be more open minded, if not, then don't say anything, you will look smarter
Hes a "great pilot" at 330 hrs???? A few things here,

1) He has too little experience to be anything but a "student pilot"
2) a CRJ FTD class is a joke, and I am glad your ignorant friend wasted his money
3)the airline he went to with 330TT hours is obviously the best regional out there
4) Nobody cares if you would rather fly with him then someone like myself with over a thousand hours in a "Cessna" shooting holes in the sky, becuase like your friend you have little if any 121 experience and should try listening to people that have "been there done that"
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Old 10-11-2007 | 07:12 AM
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haha get him saab! he did make one reasonable statement though- and thats a CRJ FTD program is worth more than a couple hundred hours in a Cessna. Ill buy that. Now whos gonna rip into me first for saying that...
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Old 10-11-2007 | 07:12 AM
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Anybody have any idea what the upgrade at Eagle will be when AA finishes all their recalls. I know it's all speculation, but I was just wanting a ballpark figure.
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Old 10-11-2007 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by liberty2007
Anybody have any idea what the upgrade at Eagle will be when AA finishes all their recalls. I know it's all speculation, but I was just wanting a ballpark figure.
good question, I wonder how many senior guys will go back to AA...........
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Old 10-11-2007 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Joepa84
Has upgrade time dropped any or is it still 7 years.
Rock solid at 7 years! The base selection option was helping out for a while, but now AE has run out of prospects who just wanted to live in base. 347 newhires this year are currently on our 9-29-07 seniority list, which is a loong ways from the 700 they intended to hire.
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Old 10-11-2007 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by liberty2007
Anybody have any idea what the upgrade at Eagle will be when AA finishes all their recalls. I know it's all speculation, but I was just wanting a ballpark figure.

Some numbers for everyone to eat up from our 9-29-07 Seniority list:

242 AA flowbacks left
395 AE Flowthroughs with seniority #s at AA
Junior CA is 4/3/00 DOH

1195 FOs behind the junior CA on our list total
293 FOs between junior CA and 1/1/2004 DOH
231 FOs with 2004 DOHs
107 FOs with 2005 DOH
218 FOs with 2006 DOH
347 FOs with 2007 DOH

Looking at the numbers, if all flowbacks were to leave tomorrow then the junior CA slot would be very close to the 1/1/04 DOH. There are so many variables and uncertainties. Among them:

-Future of Saab fleet is very shaky. Apparently the company will start parking Saabs in early 2008. This will have a very negative effect on reducing the upgrade time.
-Future of AA recalls. Who knows how quickly they will be recalled. Negotiations could reduce the number of pilots needed at AA which would slow the recalls. Terrorism, shrinkage, etc would all have a bad effect on recalls. At the current rate AA flowbacks at AE will be called by late 2008/early 2009.
-Flowthrough agreements. Negotiatons are dragging on currently to determine what will happen to the AE CAs who do have an AA seniority number. Its anyones wildest guess as to what/when/if anything will happen. My personal wild guess says they will be recalled after all the current AA/TWA furloughees, so sometime around early 2009 AE CAs will start to go to AA barring any bad news.
-AE Fleet. Our Saabs are probably going to go away in 2008, our ATRs are ancient and need to be replaced, the 37/44 seat ERJs are wasting money, the 50seat RJ market is dead. That leaves us with 25 CRJ-700s that are in our fleet and probably wont be going away anytime soon. But they break down daily.


My analysis? Come to AE if youre a gambling man (or lady) but if you cant afford to sit as an FO at $40k for 6+yrs then think very carefully about your career path. I do think something will be worked out in terms of a flowthrough agreement to AA, but even if that goes through it will take a long time to get there from AE. I forsee the AE fleet shrinking a lot in the next 5 years. Saabs, ERJ135/140s will be gone. ATRs will probably be replaced with new ATRs, but not much growth. 50 seaters will stay for now, 70 seaters will stay. We might get to exercise the options for 25 more CRJs, but thats way in the future. I think mgmt will make AA pilots give up scope to 100 seaters in turn for a big pay raise. If this happens, watch for 100 seaters at AE to replace the retiring MD80s at AA. Sad it would be, but its not my decision.
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