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Old 11-20-2007 | 07:45 AM
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No, wasn't me. I havnt worked in a month
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Old 11-20-2007 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
RJs aren't limited by time since built. There's nothing that says after 15 years an RJ must be put to rest. They are time and cycle limited on the airframe. Our CRJs run an average of 11 hours on 7 flights a day. I have heard that the lifetime is approx 45000 hours, not sure how many cycles though. 7011 is somewhere in the upper 30000s on hours. It is the oldest CRJ in North America, certified in 1993.
Do the math...

11 hrs/day X 365 days/yr = 4,015 hours/yr
4,015 X 14 years = 56,210 hours.

Despite what the company may be telling you, I would guess that the actual utilization has actually averaged less than 8 hours/day.

40,000 hours / 14 years = 2,857 hours/yr
2,857 hours / 365 days = 7.83 hours/day
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Old 11-20-2007 | 08:11 AM
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Average hours maybe. Because you have to factor in time when it is in heavy maintenence or getting painted..things of that sort.
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Old 11-20-2007 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by reddog1473
That is amazing. I thought an aircraft could be in service over 25 plus years. Are the regional jets not built like Boeing, MD and Airbus jets that are currently out there? Is it just the quality of manufacturing or the continuous wear and tear on the airframe? Thanks for the information. I find the airline industry very intriguing.
Having flown them all, nothing and i mean nothing is built like a Boeing. (or MD for that matter)
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Old 11-20-2007 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cessna126
Average hours maybe. Because you have to factor in time when it is in heavy maintenence or getting painted..things of that sort.
And don't forget sitting for 89 days. Also in the last 2 years utilization has gone down, thanks to Delta.
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Old 11-20-2007 | 01:16 PM
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Flyboy, thanks for that quick math lesson. I used to work in the CVG ramp tower, and when I'd get bored, I'd start looking at aircraft routing (several CVG ramp tower agents have gone on to become Flight Controllers). Before the December '05 (or was it Dec '06?) reduction, the average daily usage of an aircraft was upwards of 11-12 hours, depending on where/how the plane was routed (I'm talking the 50s only, 40s and 70s were a little lower). We had one of the highest daily aircraft utilization numbers. Now, with the current flight schedule, daily has dropped to below 11. Next time I look at Fleetwatch, I'll do an audit and see how it turns out.
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Old 11-20-2007 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
Haha, leave it to a Comair guy to correct everyone else.

Yes, we are returning some of our aircraftsss as part of the CRJ100/CRJ900 swapout. They are not the oldest/highest time birds in the fleet, just part of the lessor's group of aircraftsssss that are going back. I've seen a few out there flying for Chautauqua with Continental colors, Skywest with Midwest colors, etc....
I think everyone is missing the point...the returns have nothing to do with the age of the aircraft, just happen to be the ones owned by a certain lessor and part of the process of exchanging CRJ900's for CRJ100/200's.
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Old 11-20-2007 | 02:08 PM
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Old 11-20-2007 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
Um....that was exactly my point?
I agree...that is why I quoted you...of all the "explanations" I was reading, even after your post, it seemed yours was the one that was dead on, rather than some kind of aging aircraft conspiracy. Sorry I did not make that clear...
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Old 11-20-2007 | 02:28 PM
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Ahh roger that, glad to finally be on the correct airway
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