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Old 12-19-2007, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski View Post
I would imagine in the future Colgan would probably fly Q's for them..............yet another blow to the industry, and for those that think I am bashing Colgan, I am not, I am bashing the fact that an airplane that carries as many people as the Q does, is not flown by a mainline Pilot
The Q doesnt necessarily hold any more people than the -170 and the RJ 700 and holds less than a 900. It will be the Q400X when it comes online that will be holding 90 pax, not sure when that plane will go into production though. I am not so sure that the Q400 is really a mainline competitor, a regional contender yes, but it doesnt replace a 190 or a 737 or a dc9 or other smaller narrow body aircraft.
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The Q doesnt necessarily hold any more people than the -170 and the RJ 700 and holds less than a 900. It will be the Q400X when it comes online that will be holding 90 pax, not sure when that plane will go into production though. I am not so sure that the Q400 is really a mainline competitor, a regional contender yes, but it doesnt replace a 190 or a 737 or a dc9 or other smaller narrow body aircraft.
don't kid yourself, of course it is............................ Heck you could run 20 RJ's a day from EWR-MCO, I am sure not every seat would be filled on every flight..........Frequency has a way of masking the fact that mainline routes are being flown by regional aircraft...........
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Really? What kind of flying would they do? I can't imagine them taking an Rj on the EAS routes. As far as Saranac Lake and Rutland I don't think can fly an RJ in there. Wouldn't surprise me if DAL approached Commutair again. Big Sky was the one that outbid Commutair for that flying.
actually from what i have read in the last day commutair did not even bid to continue service in that area. big sky was the only carrier that even bid on flying into there. there was an article in a local paper up there documenting how disappointed the community was with the service we provided, and righfully so, but how they had no other choice since we were the sole bidders.

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We (Comair) used to do BOS-TTN, which was taken over by BigSky. We might be going back doing that again. I think there are a few other routes we did out of BOS.
this route wasn't "taken over" by big sky. comair tried it and lost money hand over fist. the service was then discontinued. months later big sky went to delta with the idea that maybe it could make money with a 1900, and we gave it a shot. loads in and out of there were almost always full, but once again our operational inefficiency led to many disgruntled passengers and thus making the service a failure. so i wouldn't plan on comair going back in there since it was a losing proposal from the get go.
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Pan Scam...........
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Old 12-19-2007, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski View Post
don't kid yourself, of course it is............................ Heck you could run 20 RJ's a day from EWR-MCO, I am sure not every seat would be filled on every flight..........Frequency has a way of masking the fact that mainline routes are being flown by regional aircraft...........
the economics of air travel show that when people are given more choices that more people will travel. in essence, if you threw a 737 with 120 seats on a route once a day you may only sell 50 seats. if you put 3 flights a day on a 50 seat rj you may get over 100 passengers to travel that same route since you give them more flexibility as to what time of day they can travel.

now im not saying i dont agree with you saab, im just saying thats what i learned in an airline economics class a couple years ago.
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the economics of air travel show that when people are given more choices that more people will travel. in essence, if you threw a 737 with 120 seats on a route once a day you may only sell 50 seats. if you put 3 flights a day on a 50 seat rj you may get over 100 passengers to travel that same route since you give them more flexibility as to what time of day they can travel.

now im not saying i dont agree with you saab, im just saying thats what i learned in an airline economics class a couple years ago.
I agree, especially since pax are now accustomed to 12 flights a day to just about anywhere
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Originally Posted by mccube5 View Post
this route wasn't "taken over" by big sky. comair tried it and lost money hand over fist. the service was then discontinued. months later big sky went to delta with the idea that maybe it could make money with a 1900, and we gave it a shot. loads in and out of there were almost always full, but once again our operational inefficiency led to many disgruntled passengers and thus making the service a failure. so i wouldn't plan on comair going back in there since it was a losing proposal from the get go.
Trust me I know. I always wondered myself why we are flying a 50-seat jet from BOS-TTN three times a day?! I think the most PAX I've had on that flight was probably 15. I remember one night we only had like 8 people.
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We (Comair) used to do BOS-TTN, which was taken over by BigSky. We might be going back doing that again. I think there are a few other routes we did out of BOS.
sweet i live like a mile from trenton airport..... but i wouldnt get on the beech.... i was sad when comair pulled out TTN overnights would be so nice
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Old 12-19-2007, 03:39 PM
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but i wouldnt get on the beech
can i ask why? something wrong with the beech? last time i checked it had two engines and some wings. on top the that those PT6A-67D's are some of the best engines out there.
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sweet i live like a mile from trenton airport..... but i wouldnt get on the beech.... i was sad when comair pulled out TTN overnights would be so nice
Yeah, the TTN overnights were ok. The hotel was very nice. I think it was a Hyatt out by Princeton University. It was fun flying in there. Maybe with BigSky moving out of BOS, maybe we finally get our BOS base... pff
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