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Old 01-04-2008, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Deez340 View Post
Severely ill-informed. Delta's mins are the same they have always been (even when fedex, ups, and swa guys were trying to get on here. as resent as 2001) and not the result of your improperly perceived "desperation". The average new hire of late had 6000+ tt and 2500+ pic and there are over 12,000 apps on file.

Your apps on file numbers are just plain wrong. Where do you get your facts from?
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:48 AM
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they can lower their mins all they want. its an invitation to apply not a guarantee for an interview or to get hired. You have to stand out and be almost a chuck yeager, thats is related to someone, and with an awesome resume to get through at or near their application mins.
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:36 AM
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Have your people talk a little further with AC. They have hired regional FOs in the recent past. Of course the one I'm familiar with was stuck at Eagle for 7 years and had about 8,000 hrs.
and probably had a bit of PIC from flight instructing?? i have like 65 hours of dual given! lucked out right out of college and got a part 91 job flying a jet..... guess not so lucky now huh!!??
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:21 PM
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and probably had a bit of PIC from flight instructing?? i have like 65 hours of dual given! lucked out right out of college and got a part 91 job flying a jet..... guess not so lucky now huh!!??
Oh, yea, he had 1500 piston pic. good luck though.
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeshmoe View Post
Your apps on file numbers are just plain wrong. Where do you get your facts from?
Your statement about delta removing a pic requirement was/is just plain wrong. Where did you get that "fact" from? As for my info, I had drinks with the former manager of pilot recruitment (Capt. J Swift, now 777 fleet manager) last fall and he mentioned the number. I guess he could have been pulling my leg, but that's really not his style.
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Old 01-05-2008, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfootglass View Post
Hey guys!

I'm looking to put in resumes for the regionals here in a few months and was trying to do some long term planning. Eventually, I would like to work for someone like NetJets and was wondering, realistically, how long it would be before I was eligible for that sort of job. How many pilots do this sort of thing? I've noticed that a lot of people are very concerned about upgrade times. This may be a dumb question with an obvious answer, but why don't more pilots leave the regionals for better jobs rather than waiting for an upgrade?

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I work for Netjets,( best job, contract, and QOL I've ever had). We just had an adjustment to our contract last December. Within a week, the HR Dept. was flooded with resumes. From now on, you will need turbine time, preferibly jet to get the call. More and more of the people interviewing at NJ have Jet PIC, most come from the regionals. They seem to like military guys as well, every other newbie I run into flew an Army King Air, a fighter jet or tanker. Its going to get very competitive. NJI is done hiring, from now all their people will come from NJ. Last year when they were hiring, I heard that it was easier to get an interview with Fedex or UPS than Netjets International. I can see that, the G-IV/V is a sweet ride.

In about 3-4 years it'll take you a good 7-8 years to upgrade, still better than the majors 12+. Try to get on at NJ ASAP, however if you're young I guess it doesn't matter. The problem is that we have hundreds of guys in their 60s, they seem to have forgotten what the notion of retirement is.

good luck, hope to see you here one day
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Originally Posted by Deez340 View Post
Your statement about delta removing a pic requirement was/is just plain wrong. Where did you get that "fact" from? As for my info, I had drinks with the former manager of pilot recruitment (Capt. J Swift, now 777 fleet manager) last fall and he mentioned the number. I guess he could have been pulling my leg, but that's really not his style.
Was at corporate headquarters in IL last week and spoke with both chief pilot and senior manager in recruiting. The number you were given is wrong. Thanks for playing.
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:09 AM
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Was at corporate headquarters in IL last week and spoke with both chief pilot and senior manager in recruiting. The number you were given is wrong. Thanks for playing.

Dude,
Newsflash - Corporate Headquarters is in Atlanta - I think you are confusing DAL with UAL. The DAL numbers are correct.
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Originally Posted by sixfootglass View Post
...why don't more pilots leave the regionals for better jobs rather than waiting for an upgrade?
Don't confuse crummy regionals with good regionals. At the circus joints (like the one I fly for) folks are scrambling to get out because these places suck. If you are fairly senior at a good regional, the tendency to stay is higher. Also, the comments about having at least 1000 PIC are accurate. With the eb and flow typical of the industry you don't want to be caught looking for a job without the "mins" to qualify.

Good luck to you sir! Do your research before you apply, and find a good intermediate step that would serve as a permanent slot should you get stuck for a while.
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Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
Dude,
Newsflash - Corporate Headquarters is in Atlanta - I think you are confusing DAL with UAL. The DAL numbers are correct.
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Newsflash Hoss.......obviously you didn't read the prior posts as "numbers" was a reference to the number of applications UAL has on hand, not DAL. Yes, WELL aware DAL headquarters is in ATL, just as anyone with a pulse also knows UAL headquarters is in ORD.
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