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01-05-2008, 12:10 PM
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you guys are totally confusing the pic requirements and total number of apps for UAL and DAL....
DAL--1200 total/ 1000 turbine....NO PIC REQUIREMENT .... but there is a PIC they would like you to have to give you an interview. I too spoke with CA Swift back in Feb when they may have had about 12000 apps on file....not the case anymore.... they have gone through many many 1000s
UAL--1500 total/ 1000 PIC ME / 500 turbine .... not sure about the apps on file, but judging from the guys that i have talked to who have interviewed and joeshmoe's wife....not too many.....
DAL--1200 total/ 1000 turbine....NO PIC REQUIREMENT .... but there is a PIC they would like you to have to give you an interview. I too spoke with CA Swift back in Feb when they may have had about 12000 apps on file....not the case anymore.... they have gone through many many 1000s
UAL--1500 total/ 1000 PIC ME / 500 turbine .... not sure about the apps on file, but judging from the guys that i have talked to who have interviewed and joeshmoe's wife....not too many.....
01-05-2008, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonne
you guys are totally confusing the pic requirements and total number of apps for UAL and DAL....
DAL--1200 total/ 1000 turbine....NO PIC REQUIREMENT .... but there is a PIC they would like you to have to give you an interview. I too spoke with CA Swift back in Feb when they may have had about 12000 apps on file....not the case anymore.... they have gone through many many 1000s
UAL--1500 total/ 1000 PIC ME / 500 turbine .... not sure about the apps on file, but judging from the guys that i have talked to who have interviewed and joeshmoe's wife....not too many.....
DAL--1200 total/ 1000 turbine....NO PIC REQUIREMENT .... but there is a PIC they would like you to have to give you an interview. I too spoke with CA Swift back in Feb when they may have had about 12000 apps on file....not the case anymore.... they have gone through many many 1000s
UAL--1500 total/ 1000 PIC ME / 500 turbine .... not sure about the apps on file, but judging from the guys that i have talked to who have interviewed and joeshmoe's wife....not too many.....
01-05-2008, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeshmoe
Newsflash Hoss.......obviously you didn't read the prior posts as "numbers" was a reference to the number of applications UAL has on hand, not DAL. Yes, WELL aware DAL headquarters is in ATL, just as anyone with a pulse also knows UAL headquarters is in ORD.
Originally Posted by Deez340
Severely ill-informed. Delta's mins are the same they have always been (even when fedex, ups, and swa guys were trying to get on here. as resent as 2001) and not the result of your improperly perceived "desperation". The average new hire of late had 6000+ tt and 2500+ pic and there are over 12,000 apps on file.
Your apps on file numbers are just plain wrong. Where do you get your facts from?
Can I have some of what you're smoking?!? My comments have solely been about Delta as that is for whom I fly and don't know anything about UAL recruitment. I suggest you read the previous posts.
You said delta had removed a pic requirement, to which I responded the above, to which you questioned my source, which I answered, to which you inexplicably said someone in Ill. new more about delta recruiting.
Last edited by Deez340; 01-05-2008 at 07:27 PM.
01-05-2008, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonne
you guys are totally confusing the pic requirements and total number of apps for UAL and DAL....
DAL--1200 total/ 1000 turbine....NO PIC REQUIREMENT .... but there is a PIC they would like you to have to give you an interview. I too spoke with CA Swift back in Feb when they may have had about 12000 apps on file....not the case anymore.... they have gone through many many 1000s
UAL--1500 total/ 1000 PIC ME / 500 turbine .... not sure about the apps on file, but judging from the guys that i have talked to who have interviewed and joeshmoe's wife....not too many.....
DAL--1200 total/ 1000 turbine....NO PIC REQUIREMENT .... but there is a PIC they would like you to have to give you an interview. I too spoke with CA Swift back in Feb when they may have had about 12000 apps on file....not the case anymore.... they have gone through many many 1000s
UAL--1500 total/ 1000 PIC ME / 500 turbine .... not sure about the apps on file, but judging from the guys that i have talked to who have interviewed and joeshmoe's wife....not too many.....
Last edited by Deez340; 01-05-2008 at 07:46 PM.
01-06-2008, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Deez340
As I said I had cocktails with the captain in the fall and that is what he said. He had already been replaced by Arnie but i feel certain he knows more about it than a CRJ FO who spoke to him 6 months earlier. REGARDLESS, the point is Delta is not desperate for applicants and didn't remove a PIC requirement that was never there as Chuck Norris.... er..uh.. joeshmoe suggests.
why do you continue to pick fights??....and think you know everything??
01-07-2008, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Deez340
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Originally Posted by Deez340
Severely ill-informed. Delta's mins are the same they have always been (even when fedex, ups, and swa guys were trying to get on here. as resent as 2001) and not the result of your improperly perceived "desperation". The average new hire of late had 6000+ tt and 2500+ pic and there are over 12,000 apps on file.
Your apps on file numbers are just plain wrong. Where do you get your facts from?
Can I have some of what you're smoking?!? My comments have solely been about Delta as that is for whom I fly and don't know anything about UAL recruitment. I suggest you read the previous posts.
You said delta had removed a pic requirement, to which I responded the above, to which you questioned my source, which I answered, to which you inexplicably said someone in Ill. new more about delta recruiting.
Originally Posted by Deez340
Severely ill-informed. Delta's mins are the same they have always been (even when fedex, ups, and swa guys were trying to get on here. as resent as 2001) and not the result of your improperly perceived "desperation". The average new hire of late had 6000+ tt and 2500+ pic and there are over 12,000 apps on file.
Your apps on file numbers are just plain wrong. Where do you get your facts from?
Can I have some of what you're smoking?!? My comments have solely been about Delta as that is for whom I fly and don't know anything about UAL recruitment. I suggest you read the previous posts.
You said delta had removed a pic requirement, to which I responded the above, to which you questioned my source, which I answered, to which you inexplicably said someone in Ill. new more about delta recruiting.
The only thing I mentioned about Delta was the pic requirement which you have LABORIOUSLY repeated was incorrect. Fine, point taken, I don't work for DAL.
NOW, since that is the only thing I mentioned in regards to DELTA in the same sentence, where is the disconnect in your brain when it comes to apps on file you mentioned you had knowledge of? I never mentioned a word about applications on file other than at UNITED, yet you made a very clear statement about talking with Capt. so and so about applications on file, never mentioning what airline you were referring to but I guess through osmosis I'm supposed to realize you were talking about DAL. Whatever.
01-08-2008, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeshmoe
Let me dumb this down for you.........
The only thing I mentioned about Delta was the pic requirement which you have LABORIOUSLY repeated was incorrect. Fine, point taken, I don't work for DAL.
NOW, since that is the only thing I mentioned in regards to DELTA in the same sentence, where is the disconnect in your brain when it comes to apps on file you mentioned you had knowledge of? I never mentioned a word about applications on file other than at UNITED, yet you made a very clear statement about talking with Capt. so and so about applications on file, never mentioning what airline you were referring to but I guess through osmosis I'm supposed to realize you were talking about DAL. Whatever.
The only thing I mentioned about Delta was the pic requirement which you have LABORIOUSLY repeated was incorrect. Fine, point taken, I don't work for DAL.
NOW, since that is the only thing I mentioned in regards to DELTA in the same sentence, where is the disconnect in your brain when it comes to apps on file you mentioned you had knowledge of? I never mentioned a word about applications on file other than at UNITED, yet you made a very clear statement about talking with Capt. so and so about applications on file, never mentioning what airline you were referring to but I guess through osmosis I'm supposed to realize you were talking about DAL. Whatever.
Here is your original post.
joeshmoe: Not exactly. The majors are very much reaching the desperation level. Just look at the relaxed PIC requirements at DA and the relaxed degree requirement along with age at UAL. Its only a matter of time before meeting mins is all it takes for a face to face at a legacy.
Below is my retort to your statements about major airline recruitment desperation level followed by your response to me challenging the numbers I quoted. I mention Delta's number of applications as evidence that you were mistaken, at lease in Delta's case, in saying they were growing desperate for recruits.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deez340
Severely ill-informed. Delta's mins are the same they have always been (even when fedex, ups, and swa guys were trying to get on here. as resent as 2001) and not the result of your improperly perceived "desperation". The average new hire of late had 6000+ tt and 2500+ pic and there are over 12,000 apps on file.
joeshmoe: Your apps on file numbers are just plain wrong. Where do you get your facts from?
I can't for the life of me see how anyone reading the above post could conclude my comments were about anyone but Delta. You don't need osmosis... It says Delta in the text.
Last edited by Deez340; 01-08-2008 at 07:52 PM.
01-08-2008, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Deez340
Wow...... OK, I'll bite and continue to beat this dead horse. Below is my original retort to your statements about major airline recruitment desperation level followed by your response to me challenging the numbers I quoted.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deez340
Severely ill-informed. Delta's mins are the same they have always been (even when fedex, ups, and swa guys were trying to get on here. as resent as 2001) and not the result of your improperly perceived "desperation". The average new hire of late had 6000+ tt and 2500+ pic and there are over 12,000 apps on file.
joeshmoe: Your apps on file numbers are just plain wrong. Where do you get your facts from?
I can't for the life of me see how anyone reading the above post could conclude my comments were about anyone but Delta. You don't need osmosis... It says Delta in the text.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deez340
Severely ill-informed. Delta's mins are the same they have always been (even when fedex, ups, and swa guys were trying to get on here. as resent as 2001) and not the result of your improperly perceived "desperation". The average new hire of late had 6000+ tt and 2500+ pic and there are over 12,000 apps on file.
joeshmoe: Your apps on file numbers are just plain wrong. Where do you get your facts from?
I can't for the life of me see how anyone reading the above post could conclude my comments were about anyone but Delta. You don't need osmosis... It says Delta in the text.
01-08-2008, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeshmoe
Well then I guess we'll just agree to disagree on what what was said and what was meant. I had made two completely separate comments, one on PIC time and the other about apps on file. Clearly both referring to two different airlines. Why you had to mention apps on file at DAL in your post when I made no mention of apps on file at DAL is beyond me......but we're now peeing into the ocean to watch it rise.
01-08-2008, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Deez340
Sorry, can't type very fast. Just finished final edit. You quoted and responded before got it off. Oh well. Latest version may clear it up somewhat.
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