HSLD

Yes, how dare a labor union negotiate contractual language to prevent the outsourcing of union jobs.

fosters

one word:

COMAIR

when they went on strike for 89 days they effectively shut part of delta down. they were their feed. delta, and the other carriers, wished to avoid a single company holding them hostage in the future...

Linebacker35

I think he was refering to AirCanada operating their own RJ's. Mainline aircanada operated the RJ's starting in 1995 and still operate some themselves today. AC deciding to operate the RJ's themselves instead of givin them to their regional turned AC around. AC went from near bankruptcy and possible layoffs to hiring like 500 pilots right away followed by major expansion all caused by deciding to fly RJ's themselves.
I think Delta, NWA, United, American, continental should all start operating RJ's themselves.

fosters

air canada and jazz are now seperate, although owned by the same company

All CRJ aircraft are operated by jazz, and on a seperate senority list

goarmy

[QUOTE=ryane946]I believe that regionals should be limited to 70 seat aircraft.
I am trying to find out what regional airlines fly aircraft with more than 70 seats but less than say 110 seats.
I know Air Wisconsin flies the BAE-146
I know Mesa flies the CRJ-900
I know JetBlue flies the EMB-190
I saw Republic has a pay scale for the EMB-190, but do they actually own any, or are they on order?
Any other regionals that fly aircraft with 70-110 seats and give regional airline pay?
Thanks a lot[/QUO

I think it should be Fedral Law that this flying cant be farmed out to feeders at more than 70 seat jets!!! Thats where it should stop.....plan and simple....." why " you may ask?

BECUASE people will never or VERY RARELY get to a Major/Legacy carrier because they are basicly outsoursing their OWN future.......

by the way I work at a regional.....and I DONT want to fly more than 70 seats( at the expense of destroying an industry) so I can tell the gals in bars I fly for " INSERT AIRLINE HERE THAT THEY REALLY DONT FLY FOR " ( just a paint sceme) ........SJS is really killing us all....

Linebacker35

Jazz only started recieving RJ's a couple years ago. Originaly(1995) Mainline AirCanada flew the RJ's themselves with all the new RJ pilots on the AirCanada senority list. Since about 2003 AC has been sending their RJ's to Jazz. But AirCanada still operates I think 3-4 RJ's themselves with those remaining pilots on Air Canada's senority list.

Eric Stratton

No I didn't miss that part. When ACA lost the united contract they also lost the delta contract because they decided to get the airbus's. No airline is limited to the size of aircraft but they may lose contracts with other airlines. It's their choice to fly whatever they want too.

I think it's funny when people believe the regionals should be allowed to fly bigger and bigger equipment for whom ever they fly for. They never seem to have a good answer when I ask why they should be allowed to take more flying from the majors.

Pdt's Btch

I heard that PSA rejected the intial proposal from US Air to fly the 900s at 70 seat rates (which they currently fly for 50 seat rates. If it is true, good for them.

fosters

what you're saying just doesn't make any sense.

the 146 used to be a mainline aircraft. How many are flying around at mainline these days? How many are flying at regionals these days? Used to, coulda, shoulda, woulda, etc. doesn't mean anything anymore IMO.

Air Canada does operate 6 CRJ's at mainline, but compared to the 66 jazz operates it's insignificant. All future CRJ's will go to jazz.

Tinpusher007

Don't misunderstand me, Im not "blaming" mainline guys for having these provisions in their contracts. My point that I think only Linebacker35 seems to get is that if the mainline guys simply flew these smaller aircraft themselves like Air Canada did initially with CRJ's and now with E175-190's that there would be no need for such language, no whip-sawing, no farming out to the lowest bidder...sh!t it could possibly keep people like J.O. outta this business.