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Old 03-05-2008 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyjcky6843
Alright...not to burst your bubble but I am a first year fo at AE. The post above says you can expect to make 650 on the first check and 1600 the second check. This is false. Do the math. First year pay is 24.34 an hr. if you have 80 hrs a month...thats only 1947.20$ before taxes or any other deductions. Plus you can expect about 500$ a month in per diem. so after taxes you may bring home about 1400 plus per diem of about 500ish. Not to be a stickler but 2000 is about the max you will bring home as a first year guy, especially with family insurance.
well after I read what you wrote, I do not want to be misleading anyone so I went on Jetnet to look at every single pay statement my first year.

Excluding training, each first check of the month was inbetween 600 and 650 as I mentioned above. I had only one month below that 600 number and it was 570. The 2nd paycheck of the month was on an average
1500 a month. I had 2 checks that were 1100 and 1200 in my first few months on reserve, and after that several for 1600, two for 1800, and one for 2000. All of those numbers are AFTER deductions and include per diem. Those numbers also include other deductions from non-rev travel and uniform deductions.

So the numbers I gave above off the top of my head ARE accurate. All of my lines were 80 to 88 hours blocked and I never picked up open time that I can rememeber. I can think of a few re-assignments, and I have no idea what pay rate they assigned me for those.
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Old 03-05-2008 | 01:27 PM
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I am not at eagle but a first year FO who makes about the same hourly as eagle fo's do

I do not include per diem as income because it covers traveling expenses (crash pad, food on the road, etc)

If you are on reserve to start, expect 600 bucks every two weeks. Once you get a line expect 600 bucks one period and 800-900 the next period (higher for flying over guarantee) Total monthly income on reserve $1200, total monthly on a line $1400-1500

these numbers are the most realistic

plus your per diem if you want to count that

insurance is expensive!
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Old 03-05-2008 | 02:27 PM
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Employee + 2 $267.65/mo PPO Copay
Employee + 2 $17.16/mo Dental
Employee + 2 $19.40/mo Vision

Straight from a new hire packet I got 3 weeks ago.
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Old 03-05-2008 | 02:38 PM
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Thanks again to all. Man, breaking out the old paystubs - now that's helping a buddy out!

Those numbers that coldpilot gave me are great, but is there a plan for Employee + 4? That is what I would need.
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Old 03-05-2008 | 02:54 PM
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It's the same after two as far as I am aware.
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Old 03-05-2008 | 03:23 PM
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You can always pick up open time for extra cash! It's there for the taking. 2000+/month can be done....
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Old 03-05-2008 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro
When I was a first year FO, on the EMJ I made around $650 first paycheck (after taxes and health such) and around $1600 on the second paycheck of the month (after everything was taken out).
This doesn't seem possible to me. Seems more like before taxes and deductions. On 6th year pay before I quite, my second paycheck averaged around $1,700 to $1,900 after taxes. Sometimes more if I worked over 90 hours, sometimes less. This is after 10% was taken out for my 401(k), and medical for myself only.

My per diem could have been a couple hundred bucks more, as I got tired of doing all 4-day trips, but my credit hours were about 80 - 85. My first paycheck of course was more than the above mentioned.
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Old 03-05-2008 | 07:43 PM
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I have to confirm what UnlimitedAkro has posted. I just reached my one year mark at Eagle. I picked up no open time, was on reserve the entire year (just got my first hard line in March) and only averaged about 75-77 hours a month, so just making the mininum guarantee of 75 hours for reserve. My first paycheck of the month averaged in the $600-650 range, and the second paycheck of the month averaged in the $1500-1600 range. That is take home, with all per diem and whatever else, after taxes, etc. I have the family insurance, health, vision, and dental for the 4 of us (me, wife, 2 kids). There are lots of variables that go into the paycheck, but as was asked of by the original poster, this is what I made as a first year F.O.
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Old 03-06-2008 | 06:56 AM
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Thanks gentlemen. When you're an "old" guy like me, you want to make an informed decision before making the leap.
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Old 03-06-2008 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BoardPilot
I have to confirm what UnlimitedAkro has posted. I just reached my one year mark at Eagle. I picked up no open time, was on reserve the entire year (just got my first hard line in March) and only averaged about 75-77 hours a month, so just making the mininum guarantee of 75 hours for reserve. My first paycheck of the month averaged in the $600-650 range, and the second paycheck of the month averaged in the $1500-1600 range. That is take home, with all per diem and whatever else, after taxes, etc. I have the family insurance, health, vision, and dental for the 4 of us (me, wife, 2 kids). There are lots of variables that go into the paycheck, but as was asked of by the original poster, this is what I made as a first year F.O.
Are you maxing your 401K too?
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