The reality of the situation is that Lynx possibly mislead the applicant. If you wish to retain your employee's, how bout this concept, honesty, integrity, professionalism, a good working contract and respectful salary. Providing a vision that all employee's can respect and be motivated for. A contract does not provide that rather demonstrates a lack of confidence on their abililty to maintain a working and profitable structure within their airline.
A good decision on that young man for confronting the situation and more so for having the courage to do so.

The fact he came here to write or as you mention "whine" is his perogative and right to do so. It is no different than other posts complaining of their companies or asking if they look "cool" in their RayBans, or worse yet, if its ok to date a flight attendant. He was merely venting as well as providing and experience to alert others.

There are many airlines hiring, some more selective than others but I hope all have the respect of our skill as well as our integrity. Good luck to you and everyone else.

 

I don't disagree with what you are saying concerning what the employer should provide the employees. It should be that way but we unfortunately don't live in a perfect world.

I think what some of us are saying is that we don't understand how this was a "secret" to the OP when there were posts here eluding to the same fact.

You're right, he can post what he wants, but much like the Mesa and GoJets posts of late, it doesn't stop us from wondering why he didn't know what he didn't know.

That being said, best of luck to the OP, hopefully the next company will be a little more transparent to him or her.

Checko

 

I understand that the nature of training contracts in and of itself will make my position unpopular, but what you've failed to understand here is that this company has a culture that it is trying to preserve. They want happy people who are fun to work with.

I want to work at a company that looks out for it's employees in that manner. I want to work at a place with people who are fun to work with and professional.....not a place full of flying "gods" and arrogant jerks who think that being pretentious is considered "professional."

Grown-up, responsible and confident pilots deal with setbacks like a "quiet professional." I seem to remember that tern being coined on this very web site.

In an industry packed with know-it-all, whining, full-of-themself j@ckasses, I'd like to work for a company that cares enough about it's employees and it's company culture to weed these types out before they hit ground school.

What is described in the original post is one way that one company did just that.

I mean, seriously, if you had an applicant calling and confronting you about an oversight, what would you think? This is normally the stage of the game where you send the interviewer a "thank you" letter even if he told you that you were the worst applicant that they had seen.

Being confrontational before you've even started training is just not a smart thing to do.

Regarding it being his perogative: Of course it's his right.....where did I say that it wasn't? I simply think that it's evidence of the very sort of undesirable personality trait that Lynx HR apparently detected and didn't like.

 

no big deal can you still un-cancel your other interviews and go there instead?

 

Two lessons:

1. Never turn down interviews.
2. Ask about training contacts at the interview.

Though training contacts are BS, they regionals are thick with them. It's a fact of life. Take the job and stick around for a year at least. While thay should have told you, they didn't. My guess is that you wouldn't leave within a year anyway, I agree it sucks getting blindsided like that.

 

I think the OP learned some important lessons from this experience, but unfortunately had to learn them the hard way. I know it really sucks for the OP, but hopefully some of the new guys on here can learn from his experience.

First, if you are in the "dead-set against training contracts for any company and any reason" crowd (which I assume means you won't ever apply to SWA since YOU have to shell out $$$ for your type, not just sign a training contract), then you'd better do your homework to find out if the company you're interested in has a training contract. Failing that, I've never been in an interview where I wasn't asked if I had any questions. That's an opportunity to politely and professionally ask if there's a training contract.

Second, if you interview and get an offer the same day, you do not have a "deal," you have a "conditional offer" since they're still going to have to do your background check and golden flow results or whatever else they want to tack on. And as the OP found out, a conditional offer can be revoked. I can't help feeling the OP wasn't quite as professional during his call as he claims since they revoked the offer (although I have heard of someone at Flight Options new hire class a few weeks ago being fired on the spot for asking about the union on the first day, so who knows). As was mentioned, when the OP found out about the training contract and since that seems to be a deal breaker for him, he should have politely declined the offer. As he found out, going off on HR is not going to change the world, just loose the job.

Third, I don't think it was a wise move for the OP to cancel all his other upcoming interviews right after his interview/conditional offer from Lynx. Others may have a different view, but I've always liked to be in the position of having a few interviews lined up and then hopefully having some options to choose from.

Finally, professional avaition is a relatively small community -- be very careful about who you p-ss off today. Tomorrow that person could be the HR or Chief Pilot at the "dream" job you're applying for -- and they DO remember names of people they don't like. I'm not saying it's right or fair, just saying how it is.

 

The OP mentioned in his original post that he told the other places he accepted a job offer and canceled his interviews. When he called back, they told him he needed to try again in three months. If you were at one of those companies, what would you think of an applicant who canceled a scheduled interview saying he'd accepted a job elsewhere and then called back wanting another shot? Right or wrong, they're going to assume the person wasn't very interested in their company to begin with. Lesson learned: Do not turn down scheduled interviews.

 

Anything can happen on probation.

 

Oh i figured hed be smart enough to make up an excuse for cancelling other interviews, like family emergency etc. I didnt realize he told those companies he was actually accepting another job. Oops

 

Yeah -- another excellent point! If you do decide to cancel, come up with an excuse that leaves the door open to getting it back if you need to.