Express Jet denying Colgan jump seating
03-28-2008 | 04:28 PM
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Express Jet denying Colgan jump seating
A couple of days ago I was told that some of my fellow pilots at Colgan who are based in EWR have been denied jump seating by some crews at Express Jet.
If this is happening and any of you know of this please stop. Let's quit preventing fellow pilots from commuting to/from work. It's not the pilots that are responsible for the Q or whatever CAL management is deciding and we need no be getting turned on one another. Last thing we all need is a feud between the two companies.
If this is happening and any of you know of this please stop. Let's quit preventing fellow pilots from commuting to/from work. It's not the pilots that are responsible for the Q or whatever CAL management is deciding and we need no be getting turned on one another. Last thing we all need is a feud between the two companies.
03-28-2008 | 04:43 PM
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Exactly, the people this will hurt are the pilots commuting on both sides. We were told on the Colgan side not to deny XJet jumpseaters even though some of our guys have been denied by XJet.
I hope it stops or I know we will start denying XJet guys rides on out flights. I hope it does not come to this but it will be pretty petty to tell an XJet guy in Alexandria, LA that he can not ride with us to IAH because someone in Newark denied one of our guys.
Lets end this before it gets bad
I hope it stops or I know we will start denying XJet guys rides on out flights. I hope it does not come to this but it will be pretty petty to tell an XJet guy in Alexandria, LA that he can not ride with us to IAH because someone in Newark denied one of our guys.
Lets end this before it gets bad
03-28-2008 | 05:07 PM
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Erm, does anyone actually have proof of this happening, or is this all hearsay? Let's not all jump to conclusions about what really happened; for all you know the aircraft was weight restricted or the O2 was low and maintenance didn't have time to come service it.
Plus, the only side of the story you'll hear is from the Colgan pilot who was denied. He can say anything he wants with nobody to dispute it.
Plus, the only side of the story you'll hear is from the Colgan pilot who was denied. He can say anything he wants with nobody to dispute it.
03-28-2008 | 05:07 PM
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These things always flare up and it is usually this sort of BS. I heard from a guy who knows a guy that was denied because he was Colgan. Chances are someone was denied for a legitimate reason like W&B, especially on the ER models.
The smart move not to start this jumpseat war you are afraid of is to get the truth before posting it here. Contact your jumpseat committee or get real dates, times, and flight numbers. It seems the initial reaction of people when they are denied is to blame some political reason rather than find out the real cause.
The smart move not to start this jumpseat war you are afraid of is to get the truth before posting it here. Contact your jumpseat committee or get real dates, times, and flight numbers. It seems the initial reaction of people when they are denied is to blame some political reason rather than find out the real cause.
03-28-2008 | 05:37 PM
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This is pure BS
Although Colgan does not recognize boarding priority when it comes to Non-revving/jumpseating.
I talked to one member of the Jumpseat Committee today about another issue, I had asked him about this type of situation as I have heard a rumor here or there, and it was false. Jumpseat wars arent what we do here, and believe me, more people get to work on us then Colgan. Don't spread rumors like this.
Although Colgan does not recognize boarding priority when it comes to Non-revving/jumpseating.
I talked to one member of the Jumpseat Committee today about another issue, I had asked him about this type of situation as I have heard a rumor here or there, and it was false. Jumpseat wars arent what we do here, and believe me, more people get to work on us then Colgan. Don't spread rumors like this.
03-28-2008 | 05:37 PM
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Erm, does anyone actually have proof of this happening, or is this all hearsay? Let's not all jump to conclusions about what really happened; for all you know the aircraft was weight restricted or the O2 was low and maintenance didn't have time to come service it.
Plus, the only side of the story you'll hear is from the Colgan pilot who was denied. He can say anything he wants with nobody to dispute it.
Plus, the only side of the story you'll hear is from the Colgan pilot who was denied. He can say anything he wants with nobody to dispute it.
Thankfully they're not all that common and when they do, are generally quashed via pro standards or a chief pilot pretty quickly. But you will always have your 5% that cause 95% of the problem.
Childish and stupid? Yes. Does it happen? Absolutely.
03-28-2008 | 05:39 PM
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This is pure BS
Although Colgan does not recognize boarding priority when it comes to Non-revving/jumpseating.
I talked to one member of the Jumpseat Committee today about another issue, I had asked him about this type of situation as I have heard a rumor here or there, and it was false. Jumpseat wars arent what we do here, and believe me, more people get to work on us then Colgan. Don't spread rumors like this.
Although Colgan does not recognize boarding priority when it comes to Non-revving/jumpseating.
I talked to one member of the Jumpseat Committee today about another issue, I had asked him about this type of situation as I have heard a rumor here or there, and it was false. Jumpseat wars arent what we do here, and believe me, more people get to work on us then Colgan. Don't spread rumors like this.
03-28-2008 | 06:32 PM
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Mesa wouldnlt let me on when i was at colgan last year out of iad and the crj only had 5 people on it... *******s!
03-28-2008 | 07:04 PM
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I work for Colgan and have been based in IAH for the last two weeks. During the last two weeks I have jumpseated on Express Jet probably about 6 or 7 times. Every crew from Express Jet could not have been nicer more helpful or more proffesional. I am relitively new to this business, however, I think Express Jet has a great product in the service that they offer to their passangers. I look forward to the opportunity to ride to and from work on Express Jet on my weekly commute and I will do anything I can to help fellow pilots, especially Express Jet pilots.
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