I hope that doesn't include GoJet... I agree that most of the bickering is pointless and I too bend over backwards to accommodate most jumpseaters. However, GoJet knowingly stabbed the TSA pilots in the back. They should not be rewarded for their actions. It's a matter of principal and an example needs to be set to discourage this back stabbing behavior.

Other than GoJets and those on the Scablist, I agree that the jumpseat should not be denied for political reasons although I do think that it would be easier for the Colgan guys if they hadn't rejected ALPA. Now that they have a taste of Pinnacle management's overwhelming generosity and compassion for it's people, I trust that they will make the right choice next time... Before I got into the airlines, I was never a pro-union person however in light of the tactics and ethical standards of most airline managements, it is clear that unions are the only way to protect a pilot's interests.

Because the Colgan guys operate the Q400 for such low pay and then rejected ALPA, I can see how the XJT pilots who lost part of their flying feel. Rather than taking it out on all the Colgan pilots (many did vote for ALPA) we should be concentrating on ensuring that the Colgan guys who didn't vote ALPA understand the importance of doing so next time around. I think it is better to take the high road and try to improve the situation as opposed to punishing the entire pilot group for the choice made by some.

 

It's not the pilots that bid to fly the Q400's fault? Did mangement force them to fly a 74 seat airliner for burger flipping compensation?

Don't follow you on that one. You all should boycot Chuck and Phil's Q-400 pilot exploitation scheme.

 

Another hyperbole, do you ever take a break from the dramatics?

 

Colgan lost ALPA by four votes. This meant that over 49% said yes. Me personaly, I'm not so sure if ALPA is the best union right now anyway.

So how does another pilot decide which percentage a perspective jumpseater falls in. The 49 or 52?!? This is kinda BS no matter how you slice it. Air Wisconisn took over all the flying out of my privious base and they ended up pulling the Saab out. Does that mean I need to be a jacka$$ and deny boarding to all Air Wiskey guys. Come on we all have a job to do and we all need to get to work. Online, most people seem to be quick to jump into a ****ing contest but when we are all face to face in the cockpit we bite are toungs and do are jobs. This is how its has been and how it needs to be!!!

 

This thread was started by someone who "heard" that Colgan pilots had been denied the jumpseat.

I work for CJC and commute to work on ExpressJet and have never had any problems. The pilots have always been friendly and accomodating.

If someone has firsthand experience of being denied the jumpseat due to the fact that they work for Colgan, then please share... otherwise it should be treated as pure gossip and shouldn't be escalated beyond that.

 

The jumpseat coordinator published a memo confirming that Colgan guys had at least a few times been denied JS on a XJ aircraft. There is no system wide boycott on either side.

 

But at least AWAC doesn't pay Walmart wages to their pilots. So I would say that your example is not the best comparison.

 

Well you know what they say, we are all destend to become the PIC of the local Wal Mart foyer. But thanks for the interest Ill make sure I keep your name on the list.

 

HAHA....nice.

 

The difference is that I am no longer in the aviation industry, so please don't do me any favors...