Express Jet denying Colgan jump seating
04-02-2008 | 03:20 PM
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--The Sky is Blue
--tpersuit says- Colgan sucks and the sky is only blue because of our contract.
04-02-2008 | 08:50 PM
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Just to clarify, our current and prior jumpseat coordinator at Colgan have not received one complaint about anyone here getting denied a jumpseat when one was open in over three years.
04-02-2008 | 09:38 PM
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Reference post above for why this thread shouldn't exist.
04-03-2008 | 06:18 AM
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First off what does JSing have to do with contracts? Secondly you're only an FO and don't have any say on the subject so pipe down.
04-03-2008 | 06:53 AM
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He said it is not a widespread thing and isloated and he contacted the XJet JS coordinator to discuss it. The person I spoke to is B.N.
04-03-2008 | 07:45 AM
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It has everything to do with it. JSing is a union negotiated privilege. Without unions creating jumpseating in their contracts we would not have that opportunity.
I lived with B.N. for a few years and is a good friend of mine! I thought he said guys where not denied, just questioned about the vote. I could be wrong. I just hate guys on the internet creating problems when there aren't any.
Seriously though, our pilot group REALLY dropped the ball last August. If I was at a union company and I saw a Colgan jumpseater asking for a seat. They would be sitting in the cockpit and educated about the benefits of a union.
Seggy are you in the NE? Our current JS coordinator is in IAH and I spoke with him on Tuesday about this and he said there were a few cases where our guys were denied a seat in the NE when space was available.
He said it is not a widespread thing and isloated and he contacted the XJet JS coordinator to discuss it. The person I spoke to is B.N.
He said it is not a widespread thing and isloated and he contacted the XJet JS coordinator to discuss it. The person I spoke to is B.N.
Seriously though, our pilot group REALLY dropped the ball last August. If I was at a union company and I saw a Colgan jumpseater asking for a seat. They would be sitting in the cockpit and educated about the benefits of a union.
04-03-2008 | 08:06 AM
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I lived with B.N. for a few years and is a good friend of mine! I thought he said guys where not denied, just questioned about the vote. I could be wrong. I just hate guys on the internet creating problems when there aren't any.
Seriously though, our pilot group REALLY dropped the ball last August. If I was at a union company and I saw a Colgan jumpseater asking for a seat. They would be sitting in the cockpit and educated about the benefits of a union.
I hope ALPA puts forth the same effort as last year in support of a drive. This propaganda we get from the company and BC makes me sick.
04-03-2008 | 08:35 AM
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Jumpseating is not contractual. It is an agreement between airlines. There are many places that don't have unions that have JS privileges. It has nothing to do with union negotiations. My union can negotiate with the airline all they want but they can't force XJT, SKW, SWA, UPS etc. to give us a ride. It's purely scratching each other's backs. CASS was made by FedEx not a union.
04-03-2008 | 09:41 AM
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Jumpseating is not contractual. It is an agreement between airlines. There are many places that don't have unions that have JS privileges. It has nothing to do with union negotiations. My union can negotiate with the airline all they want but they can't force XJT, SKW, SWA, UPS etc. to give us a ride. It's purely scratching each other's backs. CASS was made by FedEx not a union.
And if I'm not mistaken, It was UPS, AA, and Alaska that were the pioneering airlines of CASS.
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