Total Time and PIC time required to upgrade at most regionals
04-11-2008, 11:02 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by SharkAir
Have any of these guys actually upgraded yet?
04-11-2008, 11:14 AM
#23
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When I upgraded at Air Wisconsin last summer, I had 128 hours of PIC in my logbook. There was some kind of limitation on my certificate at first, but was rapidly removed. Also, I could not fly to Canada at first.
Also, when I upgraded I had almost 4000 hours total time and about 3700 SIC. I now have about 560 hours of PIC.
Also, when I upgraded I had almost 4000 hours total time and about 3700 SIC. I now have about 560 hours of PIC.
04-11-2008, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkAir
Is this really an issue? Who doesn't have 250 hours of legitimate PIC?
04-11-2008, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by saab2000
I did not. I was part of a European Ab Initio program back in the 90s and was hired over there with 260 hours total time and just over 100 hours of PIC. It happens. Never instructed or flew cancelled checks or any of that usual stuff.
04-11-2008, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkAir
Now don't get me started on Europe.
Anyway, not trying to pick an argument. I was just commenting on how it is possible to upgrade in the US with low PIC time, which I had. I still don't have very much.....
04-11-2008, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by boilerpilot
Doesn't ANYbody read the regs anymore?
Quote:
FAR 61.159.a.4
(4) 250 hours of flight time in an airplane as a pilot in command, or as second in command performing the duties of pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command, or any combination thereof
Some airlines have programs to accomplish this, but if your company doesn't you can't just go declare yourself the "acting PIC".
04-11-2008, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MuseumDriver
An FAA ATP is an ICAO ATP... To my knowledge there is only one "FAA ATP" issued in the United States and it is accepted around the world as an ICAO ATP.
This is nothing new or obscure...every large jet regional in the US has this issue.
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