Comair Interview
06-19-2008, 04:27 PM
#441
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Originally Posted by EuroMan24
So they are still interviewing at Comair then? If so thats a goos sign.....i need my class to start like tomarrow...dont want eagle to happen all over again...
06-19-2008, 04:38 PM
#443
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Originally Posted by Pantera
Better check your numbers again. The lowest captain upgraded was 4 and a half years.
The guys I know on IOE right now are Dec 2002 hires, they had Late April upgrade classes. The juniorest guys awarded upgrade may have been awarded a Captain slot at 4 1/2 years, but they won't get their first Captain paycheck until around the five year mark. Maybe we're just talking semantics.
If a third year guy gets awarded an upgrade and his upgrade class date isn't until two years from now, is it a 3-year or 5-year upgrade? I say 5 years.
In any case, if there's a Comair captain going around saying he's only been here 3 1/2 years- he's smoking sillyplant. Now if he says he's getting paid like he's been here 3 1/2 years, he's perfectly sober.
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06-19-2008, 05:06 PM
#444
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Not to sound rude, but my numbers were in my post. Do you have a seniority number or hire date on the 4 1/2 year upgrade?
The guys I know on IOE right now are Dec 2002 hires, they had Late April upgrade classes. The juniorest guys awarded upgrade may have been awarded a Captain slot at 4 1/2 years, but they won't get their first Captain paycheck until around the five year mark. Maybe we're just talking semantics.
If a third year guy gets awarded an upgrade and his upgrade class date isn't until two years from now, is it a 3-year or 5-year upgrade? I say 5 years.
In any case, if there's a Comair captain going around saying he's only been here 3 1/2 years- he's smoking sillyplant. Now if he says he's getting paid like he's been here 3 1/2 years, he's perfectly sober.
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The guys I know on IOE right now are Dec 2002 hires, they had Late April upgrade classes. The juniorest guys awarded upgrade may have been awarded a Captain slot at 4 1/2 years, but they won't get their first Captain paycheck until around the five year mark. Maybe we're just talking semantics.
If a third year guy gets awarded an upgrade and his upgrade class date isn't until two years from now, is it a 3-year or 5-year upgrade? I say 5 years.
In any case, if there's a Comair captain going around saying he's only been here 3 1/2 years- he's smoking sillyplant. Now if he says he's getting paid like he's been here 3 1/2 years, he's perfectly sober.
...
06-19-2008, 07:21 PM
#446
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Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot
I can concur with you. I have been here 3 1/2 years and have my bid in for upgrade ASAP (JFK RSV). The most junior captain from the last vacancy bid was 60 or 65 numbers senior to me. That's at least 6 to 8 months senior to me. So you are essentially looking at 4 to 4 1/2 year upgrades.
But consider this….
if fuel prices remain at their current levels -or increase- next year and beyond would there be less flying, about the same, or more flying available to Comair? I don’t know; but, I do think that Comair will probably stop flying routes that are uneconomic if fuel costs increase much further, and stay that way. What effect will that have on the average upgrade time?
Let's say Comair actually did elect to reduce their exposure to financial risk and stop flying routes that were uneconomic due to high fuel costs. What would be the effect on a new-hire F/O? Could it result in an extended period sitting on reserve -24+ months anyone?- with little, or no flying each month? And what if furloughs became a reality?
So my question is, could that 4-4 1/2 year upgrade realistically stretch into a 5-6+ year upgrade if things really start deteriorating next year?
If someone can gaze into there crystal ball and come up with the answers, that’d be great. Thanks.
06-19-2008, 07:33 PM
#448
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Originally Posted by NZAV8R
All the best in achieving your upgrade RJtrash, I hope that you get it. However, I think that it's important to note that fuel prices have doubled in the last year and the trend appears to be for it to continue upward. Yeah, ok, so what? Right?
But consider this….
if fuel prices remain at their current levels -or increase- next year and beyond would there be less flying, about the same, or more flying available to Comair? I don’t know; but, I do think that Comair will probably stop flying routes that are uneconomic if fuel costs increase much further, and stay that way. What effect will that have on the average upgrade time?
Let's say Comair actually did elect to reduce their exposure to financial risk and stop flying routes that were uneconomic due to high fuel costs. What would be the effect on a new-hire F/O? Could it result in an extended period sitting on reserve -24+ months anyone?- with little, or no flying each month? And what if furloughs became a reality?
So my question is, could that 4-4 1/2 year upgrade realistically stretch into a 5-6+ year upgrade if things really start deteriorating next year?
If someone can gaze into there crystal ball and come up with the answers, that’d be great. Thanks.
But consider this….
if fuel prices remain at their current levels -or increase- next year and beyond would there be less flying, about the same, or more flying available to Comair? I don’t know; but, I do think that Comair will probably stop flying routes that are uneconomic if fuel costs increase much further, and stay that way. What effect will that have on the average upgrade time?
Let's say Comair actually did elect to reduce their exposure to financial risk and stop flying routes that were uneconomic due to high fuel costs. What would be the effect on a new-hire F/O? Could it result in an extended period sitting on reserve -24+ months anyone?- with little, or no flying each month? And what if furloughs became a reality?
So my question is, could that 4-4 1/2 year upgrade realistically stretch into a 5-6+ year upgrade if things really start deteriorating next year?
If someone can gaze into there crystal ball and come up with the answers, that’d be great. Thanks.
06-19-2008, 07:42 PM
#449
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Originally Posted by squawkoff
I got an email the next day saying I didn't pass the final review. I know it's because I don't have a flying job (catch 22) and the only airplane I've flown in the last year has been my Bonanza. It will be the same reason Comair will reject me. The part that is confusing to me is that all this has been on my applications prior to the interviews. I guess they think I can't pass the training. The sad thing is when I got my Hawker type I hadn't flown anything but SE airplanes for the previous several years and I had no trouble getting the type. It appears to me that all my simuflite instructing and FMS/glass cockpit and previous jet time is canceled out by the fact I don't have a current flying job. I flew contract corporate until the FAA said I couldn't do it anymore. If this doesn't workout, I give up.
plenty ofpeople are getting hired withoug some sort of previous flying job... not sure y u would be different
06-19-2008, 07:58 PM
#450
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Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot
I don't have the answers, man. I was just confirming to someone the seniority of the most junior captain. Where did your earth shattering, news breaking, hot-off-the-press rant come from?
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