Mesa won injunction
05-29-2008, 09:36 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by 314159
I signed a contract in good faith, and I intend to honor it. That means I have a lack of respect for myself and am not a professional?
Contracts are SUPPOSED to be quid pro quo. That contract is in the company's favor 100%, they are illegal to begin with and again, would never hold up in court. It's a scare tactic, and it's effective.
05-29-2008, 09:38 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by 314159
I signed a contract in good faith, and I intend to honor it. That means I have a lack of respect for myself and am not a professional?
05-29-2008, 09:39 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by andy171773
Well you can look at it from the other way of has Mesa lived up to your expectations of them? Have they honored every bit of their obligation to you as an employee?
Contracts are SUPPOSED to be quid pro quo. That contract is in the company's favor 100%, they are illegal to begin with and again, would never hold up in court. It's a scare tactic, and it's effective.
Contracts are SUPPOSED to be quid pro quo. That contract is in the company's favor 100%, they are illegal to begin with and again, would never hold up in court. It's a scare tactic, and it's effective.
Last edited by JetJock16; 05-29-2008 at 03:00 PM.
05-29-2008, 09:39 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by 314159
...What a nice community you guys have here that someone throws up on hearing that fellow pilots keep their jobs.
Cowboy up and go somewhere respectable.
05-29-2008, 09:40 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by N2rotation
I don't want to see anyone on the street, I would rather see Mesa pilots leave JO and work for a employer that actually cares.
05-29-2008, 09:41 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by 314159
I signed a contract in good faith, and I intend to honor it. That means I have a lack of respect for myself and am not a professional?
8 days off a month for reserve and not getting paid block or better = the definition of unprofessional pilot working conditions man.
Don't have bottom feeder pride man. Stop listening to JO's garbage and maybe take a look at some other regional contracts, to see what is professional.
How long have you been there? That might explain your silly loyalty to Jonathan Ornstein.
05-29-2008, 09:41 AM
#37
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When I was back at Mesa I saw massive flagrant contract violations every day....not every once in a a while...every damn day! In a twelve hour shift there were definately more than 20 violations. You guys still left at Mesa and Freedom need to take the same stance that Frank Lorenzo Jr and his gestapo has for you and not give a damn about the them. Leave for greener pastures or Shut the ****er Down!
05-29-2008, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
100% correct, it a scare tactic and nothing more.
7 people in my class who have left, had to settle with them. 2 others went to court and paid the full amount. It is binding and since we sign it on day one.
Not a scare tactic.
05-29-2008, 09:42 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by andy171773
Training contracts are illegal, if you don't pay it...they'll try to get it, but it would never hold up in court.
05-29-2008, 09:43 AM
#40
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Originally Posted by 314159
That would be nice, but right now, if we're tossed out on the street, there's no assurance we'd get jobs elsewhere. Regional flying is being scaled back since no one can make money flying 50 seat jets right now. If Mesa goes under, I may find myself flight instructing again.
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