Mesa won injunction
#31
Contracts are SUPPOSED to be quid pro quo. That contract is in the company's favor 100%, they are illegal to begin with and again, would never hold up in court. It's a scare tactic, and it's effective.
#32
I commend you dedication but I fear you’re a bit confused! You will continue to allow a Mgmnt team who doesn't operate in "good faith" to control your life. I think your priorities are in the wrong place, if you feel that working for JO is best then OooooooK, but that's not having much respect for yourself or your profession.
#33
Well you can look at it from the other way of has Mesa lived up to your expectations of them? Have they honored every bit of their obligation to you as an employee?
Contracts are SUPPOSED to be quid pro quo. That contract is in the company's favor 100%, they are illegal to begin with and again, would never hold up in court. It's a scare tactic, and it's effective.
Contracts are SUPPOSED to be quid pro quo. That contract is in the company's favor 100%, they are illegal to begin with and again, would never hold up in court. It's a scare tactic, and it's effective.
Last edited by JetJock16; 05-29-2008 at 03:00 PM.
#34
Cowboy up and go somewhere respectable.
#35
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 18
That would be nice, but right now, if we're tossed out on the street, there's no assurance we'd get jobs elsewhere. Regional flying is being scaled back since no one can make money flying 50 seat jets right now. If Mesa goes under, I may find myself flight instructing again.
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: XJT furloughed due to non-ALPA undercutting
Posts: 376
8 days off a month for reserve and not getting paid block or better = the definition of unprofessional pilot working conditions man.
Don't have bottom feeder pride man. Stop listening to JO's garbage and maybe take a look at some other regional contracts, to see what is professional.
How long have you been there? That might explain your silly loyalty to Jonathan Ornstein.
#37
When I was back at Mesa I saw massive flagrant contract violations every day....not every once in a a while...every damn day! In a twelve hour shift there were definately more than 20 violations. You guys still left at Mesa and Freedom need to take the same stance that Frank Lorenzo Jr and his gestapo has for you and not give a damn about the them. Leave for greener pastures or Shut the ****er Down!
#38
Now that were hurting for money, they are coming after people for it. The have been for about 7 months now.
7 people in my class who have left, had to settle with them. 2 others went to court and paid the full amount. It is binding and since we sign it on day one.
Not a scare tactic.
7 people in my class who have left, had to settle with them. 2 others went to court and paid the full amount. It is binding and since we sign it on day one.
Not a scare tactic.
#39
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: dogstyle
Posts: 375
Hate to tell you bro but they can and will go after you for that training contract and while although in the end you may not have to pay it, you'll have to shell out just as much to fight it in court (which although illegal, Mesa will count on you backing down when looking at large court and attorney fees) plus have a nice dinger on your credit. Don't under estimate an airline desperate for cash and DEFINITELY don't under estimate JO's thirst for these kinds of tactics.
#40
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: XJT furloughed due to non-ALPA undercutting
Posts: 376
That would be nice, but right now, if we're tossed out on the street, there's no assurance we'd get jobs elsewhere. Regional flying is being scaled back since no one can make money flying 50 seat jets right now. If Mesa goes under, I may find myself flight instructing again.
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