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willflyforcash 06-04-2008 03:52 PM

OK A10crewdawg, you're being called on to the carpet here. You are the one who started this bickering thread, so you are the one who needs to let us know:

what did we (MIA Eagle Guys) do that offended you so much?

ExperimentalAB 06-04-2008 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 396814)
I am merely pointing out why Go Jets was formed. Who flies it is your argument. I realize TSA pilots didn't want to fly 70 seats for 50 seat pay, but you could look at it another way. Skywest flew larger aircraft before they had a pay increase for them. Do you think it would have been wise to fly them as one list, get them on property, then negotiate as a whole rather than face what you do now?

Just out of curiosity, if you are a 145 FO, were you even working at TSA when Go Jet started?

The TSA Pilots absolutely did the right thing by turning down that joke of a contract. I wish the SkyWest Pilots had done a bit more of the same when mgmt asked us to fly for a single rate for over two years...But that wasn't my call...! Remember how shocked we were that the majority of us here voted for the last pay-raise?! Oh well...still making BHO :mad:

SharkyBN584 06-04-2008 04:36 PM

FWIW...The CHQ planes painted in AA colors are holdovers from TWA. They flew for TWA with a merger clause that applied when AA bought TWA. Somehow, when the paint scheme changed...Eagle thought they should just manifest-destiny their way into STL. Not so much...

Just wanted to toss that out there since I read about 3 posts and skipped to the end.

willflyforcash 06-04-2008 05:09 PM

Hmmm.. still no examples of being mistreated in MIA

A10crewdawg 06-04-2008 08:59 PM

Sorry flyforcash, i'm not on here every day.

Examples:

1.) Stepping on us while on the radio (Was expected but not necessary)

2.) Keeping up relations via the bird. Can you tell me that this is an example of being professional? If that's what an Eagle pilot represents then you better bet I'm proud to not be there.

3.) See example two but while in the terminal.


Any other TSAers out there sound off.

BURflyer 06-04-2008 10:07 PM

As we began to taxi, I waved at a AE ERJ passing us and the crew who saw me didn't acknowledge. On a side note, I jumpseated on a AE flight at LAX after the MIA flying announcement and crew were nice, must be a regional thing.

buddies8 06-04-2008 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by duvie (Post 395411)
Eagle Planes or AMR planes?


What is the difference?
Then I can say that AA flying is not AA flying it is AMR's and Eagle can do the JFK-LHR run.

duvie 06-05-2008 04:11 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 397487)
What is the difference?
Then I can say that AA flying is not AA flying it is AMR's and Eagle can do the JFK-LHR run.

I see your point, but I guess what I mean is that AMR created the "American Eagle" we know today to compliment AA's services. Since AE is not only at the mercy of AMR like any regional/major relationshiop, they are also owned by them so AE's own path is fairly tightly controlled by AMR. Conflict of interest? Maybe, I don't know the ins and outs of the AMR family.

Bottom line, you aren't equal to AA in AMR's eyes so I'm not sure I agree with the comparison made.

ChickenFlight 06-05-2008 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by A10crewdawg (Post 397458)
Sorry flyforcash, i'm not on here every day.

Examples:

1.) Stepping on us while on the radio (Was expected but not necessary)

2.) Keeping up relations via the bird. Can you tell me that this is an example of being professional? If that's what an Eagle pilot represents then you better bet I'm proud to not be there.

3.) See example two but while in the terminal.


Any other TSAers out there sound off.

Noticed a lot of no. 1 happening on the radio in Chicago lately but its Eagle being stepped on specifically on ramp frequencies. I'm sorry to hear about the others happening to you guys down there but it seems to be more of a regional thing, don't lower yourselves to retaliation.

tjaero 06-05-2008 03:30 PM

Eagle Planes
 
Don't get CHQ mixed up in this. Last I saw, we own / lease our birds (and they're not from Eagle, and they're all 140's in AA colors). TSA also did not have that many Eagle birds if memory serves me correctly (Most were Swiss, just the ones with window shades were eagles). And we're not doing any MIA flying.

P.S. before you start having a coronary, didn't I notice eagle doing more flying out of STL? Or did CHQ/TSA start painting "American Eagle" on the side of AE numbered aircraft? So, by using your argument, you're "stealing" their flying as well. Seriously, is this High School?

Seriously, we have ZERO control over what and where we fly. If we do, I'm assigning myself better overnights. ;-)


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