Originally Posted by IQuitEagle (Post 395919)

It just amazes me how TSA pilots say that it isn't the pilots' fault, it is AMR management, and not to take it out on the pilots. So by the same token, don't take it out on GoJet pilots, as TSA's problem is with TSA management! In both cases, the respective managements were/are looking to outsource the flying, violating the pilot groups' existing contract.

I personally don't think anyone gains anything by bickering. But if some of you TSA guys hate GoJet, then maybe you should understand why some Eagle guys hate TSA right now.

Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot (Post 395931)

TSA management created a scab airline, GoJets to bust the unionized TSA pilots, among other reasons. Pilots going to GoJets knew what they were getting into when they were hired on (hopefully). They were going to a Mesa-esque airline that lowers the industry bar and makes it difficult for the rest of us to try to earn a halfway decent living.

Originally Posted by coldpilot (Post 395462)

But that flying is being done in EAGLE airplanes. We have no problem that you are flying old TWE routes, just that you are doing it in our airplanes rather than your own. I know its not the pilot groups fault but it still pretty crappy what is being done and with the threat of furloughs here at Eagle a lot of guys are not happy that our planes are being leased to a competitor.

Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 395946)

In reality, Go Jet pilots are not scabs. They were not formed to bust the union at TSA. I don't think they took any routes that TSA was flying for AA. It was formed to circumvent the scope at AA. They had to be a different certificate ala CHQ buying Shuttle and putting the 170 on there.

No picket lines crossed, no struck work flown. I guess that's why a few Go Jet guys are getting hired at majors.

How would TSA pilots feel if it were announced Eagle was going to do most of the flying in STL and TSA was going to park airplanes and possibly furlough several hundred. I do realize TSA has said there will be some furloughs and downgrades, but not the same magnitude.

Originally Posted by mwa1 (Post 396351)

so tsa downsizes and go jets grows
one big happy family

Originally Posted by mking84 (Post 396374)

This is EXACTLY why XJT will NOT negotiate on scope. Its a good thing to have. Pretty crappy feeling seeing your airplane flown by another company...esp TSA.

Originally Posted by flyinaway411 (Post 396383)

Why don't you go work for GoJets if your so confident in that explanation? GoJet was formed because TSA pilots refused to fly CRJ7's for 50 seat rates. You are completely misinformed if you think otherwise. And no, I wouldn't like is too much if eagle came into STL and started flying the routes, but I'd understand that the pilots had nothing to do with it and it was all management. Also, a dirty look is one thing, i don't give a damn about that, but beyond that I would expect you to act professionally. i'm not asking you guys to take us to dinner, i know the greeting wont be warm by any means, but dont be tools.



what does that mean? :confused: nobody wants to see eagle downsized and i would hope you wouldn't wish layoffs on anyone, karma's a b***h.



here we go now with the "my regional is b
e
tter than yours" BS! :rolleyes: get over yourselves.