Well, the bottom line is that ALPA should have taken serious actions when this was announced, not just filed a grievance. I feel like ALPA is setting a precedence that our CBAs are flexible and can be walked all over. This doesn't affect (effect?) just Eagle pilots. It shows management, industry wide, that we are all push overs and that the largest airline union in the world is powerless. Im really not one of those ALPA-bashers that you often run into, however, this is a major issue that I feel has not been given satisfactory attention.

And BTW A10, if those examples happened, then I apologize on behalf of my fellow MIA pilots and obviously it is not appropriate.

I havent heard about any additional STL flying. Source?

The power of a union is the power to go on strike. There are so many hoops to jump through, cooling off periods, mediation periods, legal bs, etc before a strike can actually happen which makes it such a rare occurrence. At AE we are under a 16-year contract with a no-strike clause that expires in 2012. The company breaks the contract on occasion but there is no punishment or penalty against them. If you are forced to fly a sequence that breaks the contract the common saying is "Fly it then grieve it" but youll never get that time off even if the grievance is won years later.

Flew into STL today. Kinds puts a sick feeling in your stomach to see all these planes and routes being undercut from you with the threat of a furlough soon. I was still nice to all the chq guys though.

Just remember... that guy you flip off today might be your CA tomorrow.

How is Chataqua any better than TSA?

TSA flew for American before Chataqua did.

My God the ignorance is so strong in these threads

more often than not, people on the boards get their panties in a bunch before they even know what they're talking about....don't take it personally....

You're the reason I'll be happy to fly into MIA.

To make it a pleasant experience, drop by the crew room and say hi.

STL Rampers. And an AE 135 coming from SPI to do a BNA turn... FWIW

So........