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Old 06-17-2008 | 04:02 PM
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That was nice of them...
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Old 06-17-2008 | 04:15 PM
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That was nice of them...
I guess they really like our pilots.
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Old 06-17-2008 | 04:16 PM
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management has said time & time again, they will take everything seriously, no matter how crazy it sounds, to mitigate furloughs (if)

maybe even job share
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Old 06-17-2008 | 04:21 PM
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When Express Jet became the highest paid regional pilots in the industry, did that out price them of a contract with Continental?

Its a shame that ithe regional market just doesn't support top dollar wages. While the union did a credible thing getting the highest pay rates ever for regional pilots, it may have "bit the hand that feeds them."
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Old 06-17-2008 | 04:27 PM
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Isn't FLYBE a european airline?
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Old 06-17-2008 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by StraightShooter
When Express Jet became the highest paid regional pilots in the industry, did that out price them of a contract with Continental?

Its a shame that ithe regional market just doesn't support top dollar wages. While the union did a credible thing getting the highest pay rates ever for regional pilots, it may have "bit the hand that feeds them."
I'm pretty sure they just signed a new CPA with Continental a few weeks ago for 7 years.
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Old 06-17-2008 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by StraightShooter
When Express Jet became the highest paid regional pilots in the industry, did that out price them of a contract with Continental?

Its a shame that ithe regional market just doesn't support top dollar wages. While the union did a credible thing getting the highest pay rates ever for regional pilots, it may have "bit the hand that feeds them."
Well, unfortunately theres only one place to go when your on top.........and we all now where that is, just look at Air whiskey, us, and Comair........

So essentially, because most other regionals pilot costs are less (or less work rules), they inherently are "cheaper", CAL has been saying this to us all along we are not "on par with other regional airline costs"

Why the majors don't have their own flying done by their own employees is beyond me. Also a ton of XJT stations are closing and going to American Airlines...........just does not make sense......


PS Anyone working the Comair flight tomorrow its a 10:55am Dep CVG-EWR, mind if I take the Jumpseat

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Old 06-17-2008 | 04:46 PM
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Isn't FLYBE a european airline?
Yep.. Pretty good company.. THey have Q400's, E190-195's, E145, and BAE-146's
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Old 06-17-2008 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
They are hiring 40 XJT pilots.
To be clear, FlyBe is NOT hiring XJT pilots. Flybe is experiencing a declining fleet situation as they transition from the 145 to the Q's and larger EMB airframes.

As a result of this, they STILL need to staff what 145's are still there. They have gone through various crew leasing/contract agencies to fill the short term demand they are having on the 145. The first I saw on the job was through PARC Aviation a few months ago saying they needed EMB145 CA's and FO's for a short term contract in the UK. Of course, they preferred EU/JAA license holders but stated they would accept FAA tickets as well.

Now, as that relates to XJT. ANOTHER contract agency (not PARC) has contacted XJT to see if any of our pilots would be interested in the flying, needing the stated 40 pilots. We, the ordinary line pilots, are still pretty much in the dark as to the EXACT details of the contract. It vaguely mentioned something about "accommodations", "rostering", etc. But like I said, we STILL don't have ALL the details involved in the contract. A big one being the compensation offered, as well as the penalty if the contract is broken early by the pilot. Another big thing is how they are going to handle the JAA validations, or the temporary validations, right to work/abode. etc.

To be clear, FlyBe IS NOT HIRING XJT pilots. Besides, do you think that FlyBe, being a BALPA carrier would allow that?

http://www.balpa.org.uk/intranet/Join-BALPA/index.htm

Who knows, maybe they will. But if they DID, you would probably be required to go through their own selection process, as well as do a JAA conversion for those not already holding an unrestricted JAA certificate. Yep, you can do a short course if you have certain criteria met. But it's still a bit of a PITA process.

Again, to be clear, NO XJT pilots are getting hired at FlyBe at this time, nor for this short term contract. The pilots that are going to be going will be employed by the contract agency and then leased to FlyBe.
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Old 06-17-2008 | 04:49 PM
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How much are the XJT FlyBe guys going to be getting paid in contrast to the rest of the FlyBe pilots?

Whats a job share?
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