A few details on the injunction against Delta..
#11
Yea, Ornstein is the pillar of truth and honesty. Unless he can prove that the conversation took place its worthless in the end. Even if he could the only thing that will matter is what's in black and white. I for one don't believe for second that someone as slick as JO would risk millions on an undocumented conversation. He would demand a written addendum explicitly spelling out the omission of the cancellations from the calculation.
I'm going to see if I can find the judges full opinion. Remember this is only an injunction. If Delta loses the case based on what is in this article it would most certainly be overturned on appeal.
I'm going to see if I can find the judges full opinion. Remember this is only an injunction. If Delta loses the case based on what is in this article it would most certainly be overturned on appeal.
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If you break EVERBODIES contracts, that's a lot of lawsuits and you might not win all of them.
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like i said earlier if they keep this up the merger just may not go through.
Last edited by Airsupport; 06-27-2008 at 10:22 AM.
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Airsupport,
How long have you been in the airline biz? What you describe happening at DL has been going on in this business since de-regulation. Did you not do due diligence on the industry you were entering? I know it's frustrating to see furloughs, concessions, and broken dreams, but really, how can you be suprised? The carcasses of former airlines litter the playing field like an epic gladiator battle. Is it the right way to do business? No, but it is what it is, and unfortunately the employees are nothing more than numbers to be manipulated to better the bottom line.
How long have you been in the airline biz? What you describe happening at DL has been going on in this business since de-regulation. Did you not do due diligence on the industry you were entering? I know it's frustrating to see furloughs, concessions, and broken dreams, but really, how can you be suprised? The carcasses of former airlines litter the playing field like an epic gladiator battle. Is it the right way to do business? No, but it is what it is, and unfortunately the employees are nothing more than numbers to be manipulated to better the bottom line.
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From: CRJ
Airsupport,
How long have you been in the airline biz? What you describe happening at DL has been going on in this business since de-regulation. Did you not do due diligence on the industry you were entering? I know it's frustrating to see furloughs, concessions, and broken dreams, but really, how can you be suprised? The carcasses of former airlines litter the playing field like an epic gladiator battle. Is it the right way to do business? No, but it is what it is, and unfortunately the employees are nothing more than numbers to be manipulated to better the bottom line.
How long have you been in the airline biz? What you describe happening at DL has been going on in this business since de-regulation. Did you not do due diligence on the industry you were entering? I know it's frustrating to see furloughs, concessions, and broken dreams, but really, how can you be suprised? The carcasses of former airlines litter the playing field like an epic gladiator battle. Is it the right way to do business? No, but it is what it is, and unfortunately the employees are nothing more than numbers to be manipulated to better the bottom line.
and like i said in a previous post i am not refering to pilots, or fa's, or anything that has to do with actual work at the airport. i am refering to the people at the offices. delta does not own asa or skywest, yet has made it known to them that the jobs ALOT of their people are doing wont be necesarry anymore because they are moving them to big daddy delta. comair pretty much has no say in it since they are owned by delta anyway.
all i am saying is there is going to be a big shakedown of the regionals that operate ( and once again i will clarify i am not talking planes, pilots, contracts, etc, etc ) for delta in the coming months and it wont be pretty.
#17
maybe you missed the point of my entire post. what i am saying is that delta has stated since day one of merger talks that it would be good for employees, no jobs would be lost, etc etc. yet before the merger is even close to being finalized they are starting to slash and burn.
and like i said in a previous post i am not refering to pilots, or fa's, or anything that has to do with actual work at the airport. i am refering to the people at the offices. delta does not own asa or skywest, yet has made it known to them that the jobs ALOT of their people are doing wont be necesarry anymore because they are moving them to big daddy delta. comair pretty much has no say in it since they are owned by delta anyway.
See above response. Even Boyd has been predicting this very thing happening for a few years now.
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From: ELACS, FACs and SECs. Who doesn't love 'em?
Especially since you think Pinnacle is in the clear. But if they close MEM, wouldn't lots of Pinnacle guys lose their jobs? Or does Comair, ASA and Skywest just get the shaft and Pinnacle takes over everything and become the new Skywest.
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#20
maybe you missed the point of my entire post. what i am saying is that delta has stated since day one of merger talks that it would be good for employees, no jobs would be lost, etc etc. yet before the merger is even close to being finalized they are starting to slash and burn.
and like i said in a previous post i am not refering to pilots, or fa's, or anything that has to do with actual work at the airport. i am refering to the people at the offices. delta does not own asa or skywest, yet has made it known to them that the jobs ALOT of their people are doing wont be necesarry anymore because they are moving them to big daddy delta. comair pretty much has no say in it since they are owned by delta anyway.
all i am saying is there is going to be a big shakedown of the regionals that operate ( and once again i will clarify i am not talking planes, pilots, contracts, etc, etc ) for delta in the coming months and it wont be pretty.
and like i said in a previous post i am not refering to pilots, or fa's, or anything that has to do with actual work at the airport. i am refering to the people at the offices. delta does not own asa or skywest, yet has made it known to them that the jobs ALOT of their people are doing wont be necesarry anymore because they are moving them to big daddy delta. comair pretty much has no say in it since they are owned by delta anyway.
all i am saying is there is going to be a big shakedown of the regionals that operate ( and once again i will clarify i am not talking planes, pilots, contracts, etc, etc ) for delta in the coming months and it wont be pretty.
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