no news yet, negotiating until monday

 

You obviously fail to realize what a hispeed/CDO line as the poster referred to is. There is no realistic way of having a CDO line with more than 11, maybe 12 days off, and more that 60 block hours. I myself am in the top 15% overall seniority, yet I only have 10 days off and 40 block hours of flying, 75 credit with my CDO line. Why? Because the first and last day of each week is basically a day off for a guy like me that lives in base. Start work at 7:30 pm day 1, and I'm off 8:00 am last day. Over a 4 week period that is basically 8 more days off as far as I'm concerned. So I have basically 18 days off for guarantee min pay. I could work my ass off and do 3 or 4 4-day trips for 90 and 16-18 full days off but for me it's not worth the extra time away from home.

disclaimer....Oh and before anyone goes and puts words in my mouth, my post nowhere in here praises pinnacle or their management, it simply states I sometimes enjoy my schedule.....

 

Looks like a contradiction to me. I don't spend time bashing pilots. I just call it as I see it. And this poster was implying that a Fedex employee has it just as bad as a Pinnacle pilot.

Until you guys start recognizing that I don't see where I need to stop pointing it out.

 

Mooney,

I know what the original poster was referring to. I also know you still get paid minimum monthly guarantee for those lines. The point he was making was why do you expect to get more than 10 days off a month? I don't really care how you twist it. 10 days off a month is 10 days off a month, especially only pulling in minimum monthly guarantee. From what I've seen doing day trips like that and only getting paid 75 hours should give you 14-18 days off.

 

NO HE WAS NOT!!!!!!!!! READ what he said. he said every airline has people that complain about something. I know about 30 people at Fedex and yes every sinngle one of them complains about SOMETHING their company does or has done.

 

THANK YOU! you just PROVED you have no idea what a CDO is that the original poster was referring to. A CDO is not day trips. It is Continuous Duty OVERNIGHT! You fly one leg at 2200 or whenever, get 6 or 8 hours in a hotel, and then return at 0600, never being released from duty. If you did that with 14-18 days of as you suggest, you would onkly be working 7-8 CDO's a month. THAT would not be productive.

 

Yes, he was equating a Fedex pilot to a Pinnacle pilot. This continually spin is predictable. I heard a UPS pilot complain about some stuff at his company the other day, but he said that it really didn't matter because they get treated so well there, and those were just nitpicking things.

Point is everyone complains, but it still doesn't need to be used as a justification towards those complaining about Pinnacle's work rules.

 

Im in the bottom 15% of the seniority list, and I thoroughly enjoy my hispeed line, and I'm a commuter too (a 50 minute commute though). The fact that I have a hispeed line with Thurs-Sat off every week even though I'm in the bottom 15% is reason enough to say 9E isn't that horrible in terms of schedule...it's still the pay that's the issue, but progress is being made and if progress ever stops on that front, we've gotta 99% vote and a new Pres on the way.

Bottom line is this--I had a hispeed line at 9E within 3 months of finishing training, whereas if I had gone to numerous other places I would've probably done a min of 6-8 months of reserve, and possibly longer given the current slowdown at most places. One could argue that a hispeed line at 9E (out of Memphis, maybe not DTW) offers a better QOL to endless reserve at a company with "better work rules and pay." I sleep in my own bed 15-16 nights a month, work 60 hours, and get paid for 75. I have enough days off to substitute teach at $70/day 3 blocks from my house. So my net pay, QOL, and overall life isn't too bad, and I think it will only get better(i.e. either a new contract with much better pay and rules, or laid off and going back to flight instructing, which I miss anyways).

PS> Being single and having no kids or obligations helps...everyone knows getting married and having kids makes things tougher...but no one said you had to be a regional pilot or that you had to have a wife and kids. Those are choices that affect your QOL that you have control over.

 

I'm really confused how some guy from some other airline can fill up every Pinnacle thread on APC with debate, cherry-picking, uninformed advisement, and pointless commentary. You don't spend your time bashing pilots, you spend it mulling over an airline you don't know anything about. Feel free to add something constructive;otherwise, maybe it's time to let Pinnacle worry about Pinnacle.

 

Oh I get it, its ok for one of your guys to talk about other airlines, but not ok for others to counter argue any of those points, because they don't work at Pinnacle.

If you guys wouldn't go around spouting stuff about buying Mesaba and ripping Delta pilots, you wouldn't have any of these problems.