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06-28-2008 | 09:43 AM
#41
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I'm really confused how some guy from some other airline can fill up every Pinnacle thread on APC with debate, cherry-picking, uninformed advisement, and pointless commentary. You don't spend your time bashing pilots, you spend it mulling over an airline you don't know anything about. Feel free to add something constructive;otherwise, maybe it's time to let Pinnacle worry about Pinnacle.
I am waiting for a start date from 9E and try not to read to much into what is bing said on here, but some people never stop, do they?
06-28-2008 | 09:44 AM
#42
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Im in the bottom 15% of the seniority list, and I thoroughly enjoy my hispeed line, and I'm a commuter too (a 50 minute commute though). The fact that I have a hispeed line with Thurs-Sat off every week even though I'm in the bottom 15% is reason enough to say 9E isn't that horrible in terms of schedule...it's still the pay that's the issue, but progress is being made and if progress ever stops on that front, we've gotta 99% vote and a new Pres on the way.
Bottom line is this--I had a hispeed line at 9E within 3 months of finishing training, whereas if I had gone to numerous other places I would've probably done a min of 6-8 months of reserve, and possibly longer given the current slowdown at most places. One could argue that a hispeed line at 9E (out of Memphis, maybe not DTW) offers a better QOL to endless reserve at a company with "better work rules and pay." I sleep in my own bed 15-16 nights a month, work 60 hours, and get paid for 75. I have enough days off to substitute teach at $70/day 3 blocks from my house. So my net pay, QOL, and overall life isn't too bad, and I think it will only get better(i.e. either a new contract with much better pay and rules, or laid off and going back to flight instructing, which I miss anyways).
PS> Being single and having no kids or obligations helps...everyone knows getting married and having kids makes things tougher...but no one said you had to be a regional pilot or that you had to have a wife and kids. Those are choices that affect your QOL that you have control over.
Bottom line is this--I had a hispeed line at 9E within 3 months of finishing training, whereas if I had gone to numerous other places I would've probably done a min of 6-8 months of reserve, and possibly longer given the current slowdown at most places. One could argue that a hispeed line at 9E (out of Memphis, maybe not DTW) offers a better QOL to endless reserve at a company with "better work rules and pay." I sleep in my own bed 15-16 nights a month, work 60 hours, and get paid for 75. I have enough days off to substitute teach at $70/day 3 blocks from my house. So my net pay, QOL, and overall life isn't too bad, and I think it will only get better(i.e. either a new contract with much better pay and rules, or laid off and going back to flight instructing, which I miss anyways).
PS> Being single and having no kids or obligations helps...everyone knows getting married and having kids makes things tougher...but no one said you had to be a regional pilot or that you had to have a wife and kids. Those are choices that affect your QOL that you have control over.
06-28-2008 | 09:47 AM
#43
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You have to know what it is like to be stuck at the very bottom of the airline you are about to work for. People will say you can hold a line in such and such time, but unless there is movement you will stay at the very bottom indefinitely on reserve. So unless you plan on living in base for Pinnacle, I wouldn't expect to get off reserve for a while, unless this industry picks back up.
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06-28-2008 | 09:53 AM
#44
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You have to know what it is like to be stuck at the very bottom of the airline you are about to work for. People will say you can hold a line in such and such time, but unless there is movement you will stay at the very bottom indefinitely on reserve. So unless you plan on living in base for Pinnacle, I wouldn't expect to get off reserve for a while, unless this industry picks back up.
06-28-2008 | 09:57 AM
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seriously anthony stop giving "advice" to future new hires about an airline you know nothing about. Why is it that you have no posts in the expressjet topics? it's all only in Pinnacle bashing. I think the pinnacle guys on here know more about their airline than someone at XJT. Do you ever see them coming over and bashing on XJT posts? no.
As for "advice", I think it is disingenuous to tell a new hire they will hold a line in 2 months when there is no movement in this industry right now. As well as talk about 1.5 year upgrades. If no one leaves the company you will be stuck at the bottom for a very long time.
06-28-2008 | 10:00 AM
#47
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From: CL-65 captain
if you want a cdo line at 9e 2-3 months of reserve is usually about right before you can hold one. Sometimes less. Now with a regular line, who knows you may be bouncing back and forth between a regular line and a reserve line for several months depending on reserve coverage the company wants.
06-28-2008 | 10:01 AM
#48
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Wow, you are out of touch. Your argument here is "All Pinnacle pilots talk crap about other airlines so why can't I?". Nice. Do you really believe the entire Pinnacle pilot group talks bad about other airlines? I think maybe you're getting a scewed view of this industry through the few bad apples that come on message boards to complain/'spouting stuff' for the sake of doing it. I would think someone working and socializing in this industry would already know that.
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