Good to see someone out there is concerned with some unity. You only have to look at the state of affairs at Continental in the 90's to see what happens when guys cross the line. It's tempting if you're in your 20's and you've never flown something larger but for your only shooting yourself in the foot. And what goes around comes around. Stay put, let this b.s. pass and your time will come. Just my two cents...

 

As a RJ Capt for a UAX carrier, I would not accept a UAX flight once an official strike was called. I believe most of my co-workers would not fly a UAX tail either.

In a side note-it is interesting that SOME UAL pilots treat UAX pilots with overt disrespect yet expect unity when they need it.

 

I wonder how many UAL guys know the story of GoJet...

 

Is it your habit to ask questions and then also provide the answers? As was pointed out, it's in our contract that we're not required to cross picket lines, so my answer is no, I wouldn't. Personally, I wouldn't cross it even if it weren't in the contract. And to rebut a comment about not knowing who Comair is, yes, I know who they are, they're the pilots I and many of my peers sent money to when they struck.

While there are a few who automatically ask, 'what's in it for me?', the consensus seems to understand that it's in everyones best interest to support a pilot group that is trying to improve their work rules and benefit packages because it will then provide the other groups with a contract they can point to when in they are conducting their own negotiations. Recall Delta pilots demanding 'United plus one'. A variation on 'a rising tide lifts all ships.'

Unfortunately, management has discovered that pattern bargaining can work both ways, and pilots (my airline included) reluctantly step up to provide concessions to help the bottom line. Consequently, we're being pitted against each other and the result is a downward spiral of this profession.

So who has a solution?

 

As a EGL Pilot i would be there on my days off on the line with the men and women of AA. We all must show unity at this time of need!!!! If UAL strikes i too will be standing with them on the line!!!!!

CA Tim

 

I'm sorry, but perhaps you need to read the RLA. A pilot group cannot just go on strike. There is a lengthy road that must be traveled and the question I asked would outline some sort of time frame. Please, take your 250 hour attitude somewhere else.

As far as unity goes, I would love to participate in the demise of Glen. Can the UAX carriers legally strike if UAL strikes?

 

Actually you are wrong on this.

In 2001 COMAIR struck, and SKW managment agreed to not require any SKW pilot to fly routes designated as struck work. I have no way of knowing for certain if anyone crossed the picket line....I tend to think not because the only 2001 scabs on the master list are comair pilots.

I think the vast majority of SKW pilots would honor a UA strike, assuming that the struck work could be identified.

The problem with identifying struck work these days is that the companies may have gotten smarter...

Struck work would logically be a route or flight segment flown exclusively by the striking group prior to the strike.

A lot of the DAL flying out of SLC is rotated between DAL, SKW, and XJT....month-to-month (even week-to-week) there are many segments which change around frequently enough that it would be hard to claim that segment as belonging to any one carrier. Of course there are still plenty of segments which are exclusive, just some that are not.

Anyway the challenge that UA alpa would have would be to issue a reasonable list of struck work...

If they get overly aggressive and claim segments which might reasonably belong to a certain regional, then those regional pilots might not be allowed by their company to honor those segments. That's the trick: keep the struck-work list realistic enough that you are not putting the regional pilots into a grey area with their company. This is particularly important with UAX, the majority of which is done by non-union SKW...management's opinion WOULD matter in this case.

 

did GoJet crossed any picket line ?