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Old 07-01-2008 | 04:44 PM
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Did Delta honor the Comair strike? If so or if not what was ALPA Nat. viewpoint?
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Old 07-01-2008 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PCLCREW
I would love to support any group that goes on strike, but like us at 9E do you think compass, mesaba, or mainline NWA would stop flying if and when we go on strike? Not a chance... is what I think.
So I throw the question back, if a UAX airline went on strike would UAL mainline pilots stop flying... again not a chance.

Just my 2 cents

While they won't stop flying they won't pick up any additional flying that was scheduled for us at 9E. If they did then that would make them a SCAB. Our MEC has already talked to the MEC over at Mesaba and an agreement is in place that they will not fly struck work.
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Old 07-01-2008 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 7576United
I'd like to ask a question of those of you that fly for a United Express carrier:

If we, the pilots of United Air Lines, decided to strike and set up a lawful picket line, how many of you will respect the line and not cross it.

Please feel free to post your thoughts and opinions, and thanks for your participation.

On what grounds would this strike take place? When is UAL's contract ammendable?
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Old 07-01-2008 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pokey9554
On what grounds would this strike take place? When is UAL's contract ammendable?

read the thread before asking questions
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Old 07-01-2008 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pokey9554
On what grounds would this strike take place? When is UAL's contract ammendable?
After they go chapter 7
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Old 07-01-2008 | 08:27 PM
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If united is off life support at that time, I think it would be best to try to honor their picket line in any way you can. Hell, honor ANY picket line that you can. How many of you have gone out of your way because people at your neighborhood grocery story were on strike? I have. I will honor any picket line I can - in any industry. I am not even a staunch unionist and mostly vote republican. If it comes down to a strike, management has so messed up the process of dealing with employees that they are not worthy of my money. Just my opinion.
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Old 07-01-2008 | 08:29 PM
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I think that, as said before, the main point of this thread is to determine the feeling that regional guys have if mainline was to strike. The problem is, in my opinion, that with the state of the industry right now, a regional's management would jump at the opportunity to pick up some longer routes that mainline had vacated. Obviously that is only to a point, but I think that the management would definitely pick it up if offered. Therefore, this thread is very relevant: if mainline struck, they would need the support of the regional so their legs aren't cut from under them when mainline realizes that regional can fly longer routes too. Obviously this is a feeler thread, but don't be so quick to judge. With the way regionals are acting these days (mini domestic mainlines), it's not unreasonable to ask what support would be like in the event of a mainline strike.
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Old 07-01-2008 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WatchThis!
It's easy to rationalize why you'll SCAB if that's your point. Otherwise ask yourself if you're a unionist or if you wear a union pin because it's in vogue.

The UAL pilot group has a proven track record of honoring picket lines of all sorts. The UAL CONTRACT specifically states that pilots are not required to perform struck work or cross a picket line.....what does YOURS say?
SCAB is a strong work to be throwing around. RAH is Teamsters and SKYW isn't union at all. We can't strike simply because you want us to. UAL pilots would strike because it benefits them. Because they want changes in THEIR pay and THEIR work rules. Asking a regional FO making $20k a year to strike so that a six figure captain can get more money is pretty arrogant. Don't get me wrong we're all rooting for the mainlines but you have to be joking.
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Old 07-01-2008 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
SCAB is a strong work to be throwing around. RAH is Teamsters and SKYW isn't union at all. We can't strike simply because you want us to. UAL pilots would strike because it benefits them. Because they want changes in THEIR pay and THEIR work rules. Asking a regional FO making $20k a year to strike so that a six figure captain can get more money is pretty arrogant. Don't get me wrong we're all rooting for the mainlines but you have to be joking.
Duck,

Crossing a legal picket line to perform struck work is SCABBING. I think that you might be confusing a request for all pilots to honor a picket line with striking your own company.

In a successful strike, the entire network, including regional contractors, would be shut down because there are no mainline or International connections. If for some reason a struck airline wanted to use a regional affiliate to perform work that was previously performed by striking pilots - then those pilots would have to cross a legal picket line to do so.

Is there any question about that?

I don't think any union would seriously ask pilots at another company to perform a sympathy strike. As you point out, that would be counter productive. As the probability of a strike approaches it's good to know what constitutes struck work. Most unions outline this at the time of the strike so stay in the loop.
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Old 07-01-2008 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude
Did Delta honor the Comair strike? If so or if not what was ALPA Nat. viewpoint?
Best response in this thread so far. Bet the OP can't answer it, probably doesn't even know who COMAIR is.

Last edited by dojetdriver; 07-01-2008 at 11:00 PM.
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