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04-25-2017 | 05:45 AM
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04-25-2017 | 07:35 AM
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04-25-2017 | 07:42 AM
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I cannot believe in all the years of ALPA negotiating bargaining agreements that this "contract" has so many gaping holes. It looks like pure negligence to me. I am actually nervous to hit the line at this point, I've never seen anything like this place.
04-25-2017 | 07:59 AM
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I can't believe we actually complaining about a 4-6 months upgrade here. Lol.
04-25-2017 | 08:05 AM
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True but only the first person skipped gets the bypass pay, they can then jump any number of other people, ie all the 145 FO's, and are not required to give bypass pay. Couple this with just not awarding the last 8 positions and they have a way to effectively bypass without paying bypass. Which puts us lateral jumpers in an awkward spot of seeing spots we could have held go unfilled/junior to us, and receive no compensation in return.
Once again my understanding is that this 100% allowed in the CBA, but its quite a bummer.
Once again my understanding is that this 100% allowed in the CBA, but its quite a bummer.
04-25-2017 | 08:14 AM
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Promotions
1. A pilot will be compensated at his new rate commencing with his first revenue flight in that equipment, except as provided in M.2., below.
2. When a pilot is bypassed for promotion due to the operational needs of the Company, the pilot will be compensated at the rate of the position his seniority would have entitled him to hold commencing with the date the bypassing pilot takes the check ride. The bypassed pilot’s pay will be calculated from his total pay/credit in the equipment he continues to fly.
1. A pilot will be compensated at his new rate commencing with his first revenue flight in that equipment, except as provided in M.2., below.
2. When a pilot is bypassed for promotion due to the operational needs of the Company, the pilot will be compensated at the rate of the position his seniority would have entitled him to hold commencing with the date the bypassing pilot takes the check ride. The bypassed pilot’s pay will be calculated from his total pay/credit in the equipment he continues to fly.
04-25-2017 | 08:35 AM
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I'll I'm saying is what has occurred so far so others in similar spots to me are aware.
04-25-2017 | 08:45 AM
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They're already involved and I'm sure they'll do everything they can. But as of right now I can't find anything in the language that specifically prevents the company from doing what they're doing. With a little luck the mec/lec will get them to adjust policy.
I'll I'm saying is what has occurred so far so others in similar spots to me are aware.
I'll I'm saying is what has occurred so far so others in similar spots to me are aware.
04-25-2017 | 09:04 AM
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The cba does allow for reducing the number of open vacancies after a bid is posted and I'm assuming this is their rational for choosing to just not award those 8 spots.
Like I said the union guys are already talking with the company so hopefully something can be hashed out. Because for those of us that gave up years at other carriers this definitely sucks.
04-25-2017 | 10:19 AM
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My understanding is that if you're qualified for CA, bid it, and someone junior to you gets awarded it, you get bypass pay. That's how I read the contract and how it's gone in the past.
As to the holes in the contract, they are definitely there and a lot of union guys seem to think our contract is just fine. For the most part it's good, but there are definitely some big holes that are taking on water fast-- def need some mending. That being said, there are a lot of guys who come in with a bad attitude towards management and make a stink about small things. Know what your contact covers, and don't get shammed by the company. On the other side of that coin, don't come in swinging before you've been wronged
As to the holes in the contract, they are definitely there and a lot of union guys seem to think our contract is just fine. For the most part it's good, but there are definitely some big holes that are taking on water fast-- def need some mending. That being said, there are a lot of guys who come in with a bad attitude towards management and make a stink about small things. Know what your contact covers, and don't get shammed by the company. On the other side of that coin, don't come in swinging before you've been wronged
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