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09-05-2014, 04:45 PM
#5772
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Originally Posted by DontEnvoyMe
Envoy top CA pay is just over $106 at the top of an 18 year payscale. Getting rid of the CRJ700 will reduce that to about $101
Wasn't referring to ENvoy's top CA pay, Billyhobag said "nobody", which would mean he was comparing all regional pay rates.
09-06-2014, 06:57 PM
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LOA 19 Appendix D 2.c. “The commitments in this paragraph 2 are predicated on meaningful participation in Jet Aircraft Negotiations by other labor groups at Piedmont.”
those supporting the yes vote, explain to me what this section means.
those supporting the yes vote, explain to me what this section means.
09-06-2014, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
LOA 19 Appendix D 2.c. “The commitments in this paragraph 2 are predicated on meaningful participation in Jet Aircraft Negotiations by other labor groups at Piedmont.”
those supporting the yes vote, explain to me what this section means.
those supporting the yes vote, explain to me what this section means.
09-06-2014, 07:34 PM
#5776
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Originally Posted by billyho
FA and mechanics contacts
At the original eagle, APA tried for the CRJ's, management told them they could have it at neutral cost, in other words maintenance, F/a's, ground services and gate personnel would also have to give concessions to match the eagle cost so it would be neutral/zero difference. That did not happen, APA counter offered to keep the neutral cost by they AA pilots fly the aircraft and everything else would be eagle personnel, gate, ramp, mechanics and F/A's, ahhh no that did not happen.
So, after PDT pilots vote yes on this, TA, do you think the rest of the employees will paly ball as pdt pilots did with management?
09-06-2014, 07:47 PM
#5777
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Originally Posted by buddies8
So, your F/A's and mechanics would have to also agree to concessions for those aircraft to show up?
At the original eagle, APA tried for the CRJ's, management told them they could have it at neutral cost, in other words maintenance, F/a's, ground services and gate personnel would also have to give concessions to match the eagle cost so it would be neutral/zero difference. That did not happen, APA counter offered to keep the neutral cost by they AA pilots fly the aircraft and everything else would be eagle personnel, gate, ramp, mechanics and F/A's, ahhh no that did not happen.
So, after PDT pilots vote yes on this, TA, do you think the rest of the employees will paly ball as pdt pilots did with management?
At the original eagle, APA tried for the CRJ's, management told them they could have it at neutral cost, in other words maintenance, F/a's, ground services and gate personnel would also have to give concessions to match the eagle cost so it would be neutral/zero difference. That did not happen, APA counter offered to keep the neutral cost by they AA pilots fly the aircraft and everything else would be eagle personnel, gate, ramp, mechanics and F/A's, ahhh no that did not happen.
So, after PDT pilots vote yes on this, TA, do you think the rest of the employees will paly ball as pdt pilots did with management?
09-06-2014, 08:03 PM
#5778
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Originally Posted by airhead99
Obviously the phrase "meaningful participation" leaves room for interpretation. PDT has already begun the certification process to add jets to the certificate. So apparently management seems to think it's going to happen. But the bottom line to the TA is no jets, no concessions.
Also comparing on this site the pay for mesa and go jets versus what someone posted of 91p/hr TOS CA E175 in the PDT TA, you even low balled mesa and go jets, if the 91 is correct, so what would be at 12 years or is the 91 at 12 years.
09-06-2014, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
well then they would have to specify on the certificate what jets other than the word Jet. All knew there were jets coming to PDT being that half your fleet times out in 2 years and the process is at least 18 months to get a program up and running from zero.
Also comparing on this site the pay for mesa and go jets versus what someone posted of 91p/hr TOS CA E175 in the PDT TA, you even low balled mesa and go jets, if the 91 is correct, so what would be at 12 years or is the 91 at 12 years.
Also comparing on this site the pay for mesa and go jets versus what someone posted of 91p/hr TOS CA E175 in the PDT TA, you even low balled mesa and go jets, if the 91 is correct, so what would be at 12 years or is the 91 at 12 years.
09-06-2014, 08:29 PM
#5780
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Originally Posted by buddies8
well then they would have to specify on the certificate what jets other than the word Jet. All knew there were jets coming to PDT being that half your fleet times out in 2 years and the process is at least 18 months to get a program up and running from zero.
Also comparing on this site the pay for mesa and go jets versus what someone posted of 91p/hr TOS CA E175 in the PDT TA, you even low balled mesa and go jets, if the 91 is correct, so what would be at 12 years or is the 91 at 12 years.
Also comparing on this site the pay for mesa and go jets versus what someone posted of 91p/hr TOS CA E175 in the PDT TA, you even low balled mesa and go jets, if the 91 is correct, so what would be at 12 years or is the 91 at 12 years.
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