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Old 04-16-2016 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyjustin
He means people aren't upgrading because training instead of teaching their pilots to be captains they are testing and failing them on lessons they have never seen yet. You can't pass a test that a teacher never instructed.

This industry has changed. They need to develope a SUCESSFUL dash-8 street captain syllabus. For the next few years CAs and FOs are going to be equally as experienced.
Well said.. well said.. many are getting stuck on lesson 3.. it's a hard plane and our training department is hard..
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Old 04-16-2016 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
Well said.. well said.. many are getting stuck on lesson 3.. it's a hard plane and our training department is hard..


Which kind of sucks for someone like me who has prior 121 and captain mins but new to the dash 8...
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Old 04-17-2016 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by aviator493
Which kind of sucks for someone like me who has prior 121 and captain mins but new to the dash 8...
Study hard.. Take a few months as an fo to get comfortable..m there is a lot going on the plane from gate to runway in this plane.. Throw in a busy clt and single engine taxi and it get wonky.

Took me about 300 hours in the plane before everything started to slow down.. Now that's me and I suck.. I am debating to either upgrade jet or dash..
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Old 04-17-2016 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
Study hard.. Take a few months as an fo to get comfortable..m there is a lot going on the plane from gate to runway in this plane.. Throw in a busy clt and single engine taxi and it get wonky.



Took me about 300 hours in the plane before everything started to slow down.. Now that's me and I suck.. I am debating to either upgrade jet or dash..


Yeah, I'm studying my ass off. Knocked out the 3 written tests and still have month until class. The Saab 340 took me about 3 months to really be comfortable on.
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Old 04-17-2016 | 11:37 AM
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That is normal. Don't let anyone tell you different. Six months to be so comfortable in new aircraft to where it's like a second layer of skin.
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Old 04-17-2016 | 11:45 AM
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No rush here. Safety and proficiency first then throw the bid in.


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Old 04-17-2016 | 10:01 PM
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Plus we have slave labor reserve rules.. I have no desire to sit reserve.. It's freaking ridiculous how abused on reserve u can be at the company..
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Old 04-18-2016 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
Plus we have slave labor reserve rules.. I have no desire to sit reserve.. It's freaking ridiculous how abused on reserve u can be at the company..


They seem desperate to fill seats. Almost made it seem like reserve lines don't even exist. Ha
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Old 04-18-2016 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by aviator493
They seem desperate to fill seats. Almost made it seem like reserve lines don't even exist. Ha
They are desperate and i know 2 year guys that are captain and holding a line at the right base... Roanoke is the worst place for reserve right now. SBY is short fo and captains.. mdt is short captains heavy fos and philly... well that place is changing monthly... but there 9 month fos still on reserve at philly.

This is all dash..

As i said reserve at pdt is terrible.. it is hell on young single people and the pit of dispair for those with a family. If you have to commute and do reserve forget knowing anything normal..

The whole dash 8 pilot group is absolutely worn out.. we're walking around like zoombies.. yes there is an amazing amount of money to be made.. some captains are going to make over 170k this year the way things are going.. but it's brutal.
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Old 04-18-2016 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
They are desperate and i know 2 year guys that are captain and holding a line at the right base... Roanoke is the worst place for reserve right now. SBY is short fo and captains.. mdt is short captains heavy fos and philly... well that place is changing monthly... but there 9 month fos still on reserve at philly.

This is all dash..

As i said reserve at pdt is terrible.. it is hell on young single people and the pit of dispair for those with a family. If you have to commute and do reserve forget knowing anything normal..

The whole dash 8 pilot group is absolutely worn out.. we're walking around like zoombies.. yes there is an amazing amount of money to be made.. some captains are going to make over 170k this year the way things are going.. but it's brutal.
First off it was **** Poor planning by the company and the pilots are the ones that suffer dearly. Of course people are making tons of money but so what if you have a family and a life.
They dragged there feet and in a time they should've been fat on pilots (with the RJ program also) they were actually short.
I remember in OCT before I left saying, "why don't we have instructors trained have them in place for growth and also because we'll be losing many to the flow, why aren't we big on reserve Captains and FO's since we are going to be growing."?????? I just shook my head thinking this is going to a royal F-up by next summer. I was wrong it was earlier.

The only answer now I believe is to 1. Ask American to drop there block hours 2. Park about 2-3 Dash 8's because this will allow for normal staffing and allow the training department to catch up. 3. Open CLT as a crew base since we do so much flying in and out of CLT with the Dash 8/300's this will be an incredible recruiting tool because honestly WHO the hell wants to be in PHILLY only? Plus if the weather goes down in ROA then you have cut your crew access to CLT since SBY only has a few flights a day.

That's just my suggestions


Do this and get back on Track!!!!
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