Would you take off knowing a door is open?
07-15-2008 | 06:22 PM
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So, would someone please answer the question: What is the deal with the HP air door?
Will the slip stream shut it? If it does, will it latch? If it doesn't latch, will it bounce around, or will the slip stream effectively hold it shut. Let's hold off on the judgement, and can someone just practically state what will happen with this particular door, please?
XJSaab hasn't answered with enough detail to clear this up for folks who don't fly the CRJ.
Will the slip stream shut it? If it does, will it latch? If it doesn't latch, will it bounce around, or will the slip stream effectively hold it shut. Let's hold off on the judgement, and can someone just practically state what will happen with this particular door, please?
XJSaab hasn't answered with enough detail to clear this up for folks who don't fly the CRJ.
ok,
no,
no,
it will not be held shut, it opens downwards and the latches require you to push the door in, and then push down separate locks..the door would most likely flutter until it rips off and either smacks into the side of the airplane, or falls and hits a robber in the head just as he steps out of the bank he just robbed. Instantly making the pilots heroes.
07-15-2008 | 06:48 PM
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But we usually use hand signals as most of the tug headsets are full of rainwater or misplaced.
07-15-2008 | 08:36 PM
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ok,
no,
no,
it will not be held shut, it opens downwards and the latches require you to push the door in, and then push down separate locks..the door would most likely flutter until it rips off and either smacks into the side of the airplane, or falls and hits a robber in the head just as he steps out of the bank he just robbed. Instantly making the pilots heroes.
no,
no,
it will not be held shut, it opens downwards and the latches require you to push the door in, and then push down separate locks..the door would most likely flutter until it rips off and either smacks into the side of the airplane, or falls and hits a robber in the head just as he steps out of the bank he just robbed. Instantly making the pilots heroes.
07-15-2008 | 09:50 PM
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Last week we were waiting in line for 17 in MSP. Ahead of us and #2 for TO was a Mesaba CRJ200 with the high pressure air door hanging open under the left engine. A pinnacle flight radioed "Mesaba xxxx your high pressure air door is open" and Mesaba responded "thanks". They took off soon after.
I don't know what kind of damage that does or what kind of noise it makes in the air but it didn't seem like the best idea to me. I'm really hoping they didn't just check the doors page and figure everything was good.
I don't know what kind of damage that does or what kind of noise it makes in the air but it didn't seem like the best idea to me. I'm really hoping they didn't just check the doors page and figure everything was good.
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07-16-2008 | 05:32 AM
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Dumb decision by a Capt. Period. Would not want to fly/ride with someone this complacent/or a gambler. The delay would not be attributed to him/her. Stupid. Things Falling Off Aircraft (TFOA) is serious business. Something unrelated happens and FAA listenes to tapes, etc and this little gem pops up and now they have evidence Capt doesn't do things smart. Just plain stupid to set ones self up this way. Oh well! guess being lucky is better than being smart/good.
07-16-2008 | 06:04 AM
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No one asked the important question... was it go-home leg?
In all seriousness, there is no excuse to not have a reported open panel checked out. You may waste 15 minutes, but a few calls to ops ought to get everyone in position to correct your issue quickly. You won't even stop the pay clock.
Even if the panel does close somewhat due to slipstream, it is an unsafe condition. The door will not latch, but ti will vibrate at high frequency. That is loud and annoying to the passengers, and excessively stressful on the door and hinges. You never know when that door will give, and you don't want to be responsible for contributing to another Concorde-like accident.
In all seriousness, there is no excuse to not have a reported open panel checked out. You may waste 15 minutes, but a few calls to ops ought to get everyone in position to correct your issue quickly. You won't even stop the pay clock.
Even if the panel does close somewhat due to slipstream, it is an unsafe condition. The door will not latch, but ti will vibrate at high frequency. That is loud and annoying to the passengers, and excessively stressful on the door and hinges. You never know when that door will give, and you don't want to be responsible for contributing to another Concorde-like accident.
07-16-2008 | 07:24 AM
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07-16-2008 | 07:36 AM
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"ST. PETERS, Mo. (AP) -- The Federal Aviation Administration and Delta Air Lines continue to investigate how a panel of a Delta jet fell off shortly after takeoff at Lambert Airport in St. Louis.
The panel took a chunk out of Missouri Route 94 in St. Charles County. No one on the plane or on the ground was hurt.
The panel fell minutes after takeoff on Tuesday. It was described as an 18-by-20-inch tail cone.
The plane was carrying 114 passengers and five crew members to Atlanta. The pilot heard a loud bang and returned to Lambert. Delta says passengers were put on other flights.
The panel landed near a bank and not far from a preschool."
Dang they almost had a story... I hate the media, especially when it comes to aviation.
The panel took a chunk out of Missouri Route 94 in St. Charles County. No one on the plane or on the ground was hurt.
The panel fell minutes after takeoff on Tuesday. It was described as an 18-by-20-inch tail cone.
The plane was carrying 114 passengers and five crew members to Atlanta. The pilot heard a loud bang and returned to Lambert. Delta says passengers were put on other flights.
The panel landed near a bank and not far from a preschool."
Dang they almost had a story... I hate the media, especially when it comes to aviation.
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