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Old 08-23-2008 | 07:55 PM
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There are jobs out there flying airplanes that aren't airliners you know?
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Old 08-23-2008 | 11:07 PM
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There are jobs out there flying airplanes that aren't airliners you know?
I can almost sense the sarcasm
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Old 08-24-2008 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilotpip
There are jobs out there flying airplanes that aren't airliners you know?
LIES I TELL YOU! LIES!!!
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Old 08-24-2008 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nicholasblonde
...no more upgrades at 2000TT/1500 with the company for now...sorry to those kids who paid 26K thinking they'd be on capt. pay in 2 years.

Upgrade at 2000TT... are you kidding me? Eagle hasn't had upgrades for the better part of a decade. There are nine year FO's who recently made Captain, who thanks to the displacement are going back to FO.

If all you want to do is upgrade, go to Mesa, Republic, TSA, GOjets or any of those sweat shops. You can do your part to convincing managements that pilots are a dime a dozen, and do your part to help lower the bar even further.

If you want to work for a company with more stability than most, you go to Eagle, Mesaba, Compass, or Comair... as wholly owned, their parent companies are deeper pockets than any of the fly by night sweat shops.
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Old 08-24-2008 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mason32

If all you want to do is upgrade, go to Mesa, Republic, TSA, GOjets or any of those sweat shops. You can do your part to convincing managements that pilots are a dime a dozen, and do your part to help lower the bar even further.

If you want to work for a company with more stability than most, you go to Eagle, Mesaba, Compass, or Comair... as wholly owned, their parent companies are deeper pockets than any of the fly by night sweat shops.
Please don't include Republic in that mix....Apples & oranges my friend
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Old 08-24-2008 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Oskeewowow
Please don't include Republic in that mix....Apples & oranges my friend
Are you flying routes for your parent company? Or are you flying contract routes that would/should be flown by the owned regional of the manline airline?

if you are not flying the first part, then you are part of the problem, not the solution. As long as outside subcontractors can get pilots and abuse them to save a buck, then mainlines will always contract them for some portion of the flying to use as a whipsaw. If you can not see that my friend, then you've been drinking the koolaid too long.
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Old 08-24-2008 | 05:00 PM
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I don't think that things at Eagle are going to settle down until the Saabs are parked and the Saab guys trained - as well as the guys displaced to the ATR are trained, etc. Its going to be awhile. I don't know when they will be hiring again, I doubt even they know - especially since we haven't even started flying the new reduced schedule yet. But so far no furloughs and we've probably dodged that bullet for the near future.
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Old 08-24-2008 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
Upgrade at 2000TT... are you kidding me? Eagle hasn't had upgrades for the better part of a decade. There are nine year FO's who recently made Captain, who thanks to the displacement are going back to FO.
This fella clearly needs to read the post he quoted.
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Old 08-24-2008 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
Are you flying routes for your parent company? Or are you flying contract routes that would/should be flown by the owned regional of the manline airline?

if you are not flying the first part, then you are part of the problem, not the solution. As long as outside subcontractors can get pilots and abuse them to save a buck, then mainlines will always contract them for some portion of the flying to use as a whipsaw. If you can not see that my friend, then you've been drinking the koolaid too long.

I don't see where your loyalty to the mainlines is coming from. If you think for a second that they have any loyalty to you, then you're drinking the koolaid, not me. Eagle, comair, compass, etc. will be sold off in a second if their parent companies think it will benefit them. Ask the guys from Xjet if they have any leftover loyalty from when they were owned by Continental. I don't know if the industry will be better or worse for this in the long run, but the days of the wholly owned regional are ending.

As far as working for a regional that abuses its pilots- At RAH, maybe, but not any more or less than you are being abused at your wholly owned regional. We have good work rules and competitive pay. If in the past RAH has low balled a contract, I'm confident in saying that it hasn't been at the expense of its pilots.

Very sorry for the thread hijack. Mason, if you want to discuss this further, lets do it in another thread or via PM. I hope everything works out for the best at Eagle, as I have many friends there.
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Old 08-25-2008 | 04:31 AM
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As for recruiting going to career fairs in September, I suspect this is true. Literally the day before the stuff hit the fan, we were way understaffed and offering jobs to the 230hr wiz kids (no real offense if you are one (unless you're the arrogant kind)), and I'm guessing Eagle doesn't want to get caught pants-down again when it comes to recruiting. Going to career fairs and collecting resumes doesn't mean you're hiring again, just keeping good tabs on your prospects when the time comes. Can't imagine there's much else going on in centerepoint these days
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