Lakes hiring 121 guys
08-27-2008 | 11:00 AM
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Keep in mind though that not only are you staying current but you are eligible for upgrade after 300 hours online. A few months on the FO payscale and you are building PIC. I understand its a tough jump for some but not that far fetched. And at least you still get to fly FWIW.
They are now at FedEx and SW.
And yes, they all had in's/contacts that helped them get their jobs, just like everybody else. But by sucking it up, it got them the required experience to able to apply for the job.
08-27-2008 | 11:40 AM
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Eligible is the word of the day. Have a friend there who has been eligible for quite some time...still flying as an F/O. Just be cautious--nothing is always as good as it seems.
08-27-2008 | 11:59 AM
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Are you suggesting we have merit based upgrade? That cannot be farther from the truth. When you meet the mins, you submit the bid and if you senior enough to hold it, you are awarded it. Also none of our upgrade classes have been filled for at least 18 months. If you bid it you will get it. There have been plenty of FOs that have upgraded within 6 months and Lakes cannot prevent you from bidding it.
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08-27-2008 | 01:50 PM
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Are you suggesting we have merit based upgrade? That cannot be farther from the truth. When you meet the mins, you submit the bid and if you senior enough to hold it, you are awarded it. Also none of our upgrade classes have been filled for at least 18 months. If you bid it you will get it. There have been plenty of FOs that have upgraded within 6 months and Lakes cannot prevent you from bidding it.
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08-27-2008 | 04:57 PM
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If you look at the PIC mins at a lot of good places (FedEx, SW, et. al.) - you'll see they are pretty high.
PIC is gold. At Eagle I'm looking at an 8 to 9 year upgrade right now. No hope for PIC in a loooooong time.
PIC is gold. At Eagle I'm looking at an 8 to 9 year upgrade right now. No hope for PIC in a loooooong time.
08-27-2008 | 05:22 PM
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The places you listed, as well as UPS have a min of 1000 turbine PIC. Do you consider that to be high?
If you want to talk "competitive", that's a whole different deal. Like I said, the guys I knew all had an "in" when they got hired. But you at least have to have the mins to fill out the app. After that's it's all on you to get the job.
But 1000 PIC as a min is not high.
08-27-2008 | 11:35 PM
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The places you listed, as well as UPS have a min of 1000 turbine PIC. Do you consider that to be high?
If you want to talk "competitive", that's a whole different deal. Like I said, the guys I knew all had an "in" when they got hired. But you at least have to have the mins to fill out the app. After that's it's all on you to get the job.
But 1000 PIC as a min is not high.
If you want to talk "competitive", that's a whole different deal. Like I said, the guys I knew all had an "in" when they got hired. But you at least have to have the mins to fill out the app. After that's it's all on you to get the job.
But 1000 PIC as a min is not high.
Granted I already have 600 PIC, but some places that I've seen want that PIC in turbine aircraft.
08-28-2008 | 08:08 AM
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I was told that so many furloughed 121 guys are showing up at the door that Lakes is no longer looking at low time pilots to fill the ranks. This is a big mistake IMHO, because as soon as the majors start hiring again, or they find a better paying job these guys are going to jump. Lakes is going to loose a lot of money in training cost.
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