Why do we accept these wages?
09-25-2008 | 04:22 AM
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When I worked in Europe I made a living wage flying SAAB2000s. The things we take as 'normal' are inconceivable in most of western Europe. At least that was my experience.
We had clean airplanes and humane working conditions. The stuff they complain about as being hard and brutal we in the US would welcome as improvements. I am not kidding.
But that's a whole 'nuther tangent.
09-25-2008 | 04:30 AM
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Whats bigger and better....A United 737 fo maxing out at $93/hr ?
09-25-2008 | 04:57 AM
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How can you claim that you are underpaid? What pay do you deserve? You deserve the exact amount that the airline can hire people to do your job. Right now, they could actually lower wages and benefits at your airline, and I would bet they would keep getting plenty of 'qualified' applicants. You don't deserve anything. You have the right to work wherever will hire you. If you do not agree with how much pilots are being paid, you are welcome to work for a different industry. Stop with the F'ing Marxism on here. We are a free country. Wages and prices are set by the market. The market shows that pilots will work for shi**y wages.
and it certainly doesn't mean that they should move to another country. However, if you have a problem with someone exercising their right to free speech (in this case, an advocate of more regulation (the Marxists) to the point of you telling them to leave the country, it is you that needs to move.
09-25-2008 | 04:52 PM
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You're confused. The discourse of capitalism vs. socialism is not black and white. Newsflash; Capitalism in its extremity is just as bad as socialism in its extremity. One checks the other. So, when one advocates more regulation, that doesn't mean they are a Marxist and it certainly doesn't mean that they should move to another country. However, if you have a problem with someone exercising their right to free speech (in this case, an advocate of more regulation (the Marxists) to the point of you telling them to leave the country, it is you that needs to move.
and it certainly doesn't mean that they should move to another country. However, if you have a problem with someone exercising their right to free speech (in this case, an advocate of more regulation (the Marxists) to the point of you telling them to leave the country, it is you that needs to move.
09-25-2008 | 05:04 PM
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and since things are soooo much better in the EU.... you are here...why?....simply a question.
That is not entirely correct. It is actually different in Europe. I used to work there. One difference is that there are airlines that operate so-called 'regional' aircraft that are stand-alone operators and do not fly under contract, or at least not solely under contract, for bigger national carriers.
When I worked in Europe I made a living wage flying SAAB2000s. The things we take as 'normal' are inconceivable in most of western Europe. At least that was my experience.
We had clean airplanes and humane working conditions. The stuff they complain about as being hard and brutal we in the US would welcome as improvements. I am not kidding.
But that's a whole 'nuther tangent.
When I worked in Europe I made a living wage flying SAAB2000s. The things we take as 'normal' are inconceivable in most of western Europe. At least that was my experience.
We had clean airplanes and humane working conditions. The stuff they complain about as being hard and brutal we in the US would welcome as improvements. I am not kidding.
But that's a whole 'nuther tangent.
09-25-2008 | 09:01 PM
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He is correct. Your post seems to have a hint of some sort of remorse. Instead of getting mad that its better in the EU ... or anywhere else in the world for that matter as far as professional aviation goes, why don't you look into how and why its better, and hope that we can have it as good as them in the U.S, and how we should take advantage of the next oppurtunity to change it.
09-26-2008 | 02:40 AM
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Stoki, I was not jumping on him. I am just interested why he choose to fly in the US rather than the EU. Especially in the light of his comments on how much better things are there, plain and simple. If that offends you ... tough.
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