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Old 10-11-2008 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Why? That will prevent furloughs,it does creates additional vacancies. Its a win for us and a lost for TSA if you ask me.
It's neutral. AE is still parking 10 of the 135's, so bringing back the 10 planes that were leased to TSA just keeps the same EMB fleet count.
It doesn't take into consideration the complete parking of all of the Saabs.
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Old 10-11-2008 | 07:05 PM
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Why? That will prevent furloughs,it does creates additional vacancies. Its a win for us and a lost for TSA if you ask me.
No, American having hired help (TSA) is preventing furloughs. With those planes back, they are free to furlough. You guys are parking planes and not furloughing, TSA having your planes is the reason. Now that you guys are getting the planes back, we're furloughing and you guys will be.

(don't get me wrong, you guys deserve your planes back, however, as a pilot group, i'd be scared about getting them back)
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Old 10-12-2008 | 04:50 AM
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I really can't see AE getting those planes back and just standing up and saying "okay see ya 150-250 pilots." I believe that we get back two a month starting in January so by June of '09 we'll have all of them back on property. I think by then if we still aren't full in the ranks they will at least need to do a little hiring as rumored.
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Old 10-12-2008 | 05:37 AM
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At Eagle 20-30 guys a month CONSISTENTLY have left the company. Even in August my seniority number (on the Eagle side...can't see Executive in DECS) went up 20 numbers. At the rate of 2 planes a month it will take 5 months. Being pessimistic and assuming a rate of just 15 guys a month leaving for greener pastures Eagle would still be short on pilots or just a little fat. Over the last year I started at 2880 on October 29th 2007, I am now in the 2200 range. Again this is only on the Eagle side not including Executive.
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Old 10-12-2008 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by captain152
I don't mean to sound like *****y little girl here ... but why are you so eager to work to Eagle? Unless you live in one of their base cities and just want to be close to your family, that's one thing. But they have, notoriously, the longest upgrade time in the industry, as well as one of the longest reserve times. From what I've heard from my buddies that work there, the contract is pretty good, so that's a plus. But if you're goal is to one day get to a major airline, I'm really not sure why you would want to sit through 6-8 years as a FO. Just my 2 cents. From what I've heard Eagle is a good company, just really rough on the reserve and upgrade times.
I think at this point Comair has Eagle beat for upgrade and reserve
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Old 10-12-2008 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
No, American having hired help (TSA) is preventing furloughs. With those planes back, they are free to furlough. You guys are parking planes and not furloughing, TSA having your planes is the reason. Now that you guys are getting the planes back, we're furloughing and you guys will be.

(don't get me wrong, you guys deserve your planes back, however, as a pilot group, i'd be scared about getting them back)
What are you on?

Getting the planes back is EXACTLY why we never had any plans to furlough. Along with zero/part time lines, Severence packages and LOA's, We have mitigated any need for a furlough. I for one never even heard any ACTUAL talk of a furlough. Just a lot of rumors.

But getting those planes back creates MORE jobs for EAGLE pilots. I just dont see how you can think otherwise. Yes AMR could not furlough Eagle pilots while they are out-sourcing to TSA and RAH, but the ten planes create more opportunity on our side to do the feed for American.
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Old 10-12-2008 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
No, American having hired help (TSA) is preventing furloughs. With those planes back, they are free to furlough. You guys are parking planes and not furloughing, TSA having your planes is the reason. Now that you guys are getting the planes back, we're furloughing and you guys will be.

(don't get me wrong, you guys deserve your planes back, however, as a pilot group, i'd be scared about getting them back)
For some reason I don't think that you work for Eagle and I don't know where you're getting your information from. It doesn't sound like anything I have heard from current Eagle pilots, nor does it matter because it's just another rumor. Do you work for TSA?
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Old 10-12-2008 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Paok
I think at this point Comair has Eagle beat for upgrade and reserve
LOL, well that just sucks ... I actually almost went to work there last April. Decided to go to Colgan instead. So far it's worked out pretty well since I commute from DFW it's very easy to get to IAH. Not to mention I get to fly the mighty SAAB!
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Old 10-12-2008 | 04:05 PM
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Yes, I work for TSA. and i'll leave my prediction at that...just a prediction. we'll see what happens when they planes are back and furloughs are an option for the company.
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Old 10-12-2008 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
Yes, I work for TSA. and i'll leave my prediction at that...just a prediction. we'll see what happens when they planes are back and furloughs are an option for the company.
Someone please explain to me how acquiring planes equals furloughs!?!?
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