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RCA01 10-13-2008 09:20 AM

Try retooling your long term goals. Flying "little planes" (words of another regional FO when talking about the fractional/corporate industry) is working well for thousands of aviatiors.
Good Luck!

BoilerUP 10-13-2008 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by RCA01 (Post 478251)
Try retooling your long term goals. Flying "little planes" (words of another regional FO when talking about the fractional/corporate industry) is working well for thousands of aviators.

Achieving such a position depends on a multitude of things...primarily networking, having a minimum of 2500tt w/ 500 hours turbine and an ATP, networking, a strong commitment to customer service, and did I mention networking?

I've never been so happy to fly a jet so slow as I am in the Citation...:D

The Juice 10-13-2008 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Rascal (Post 477649)
I am done. You can have your poverty wages and Alpa stickers that lead to... NOTHING!!! I am under the influence of beer, but nevertheless you can have it all. I am done chasing the carrot and sacrificing my life to this cr@p industry. I want a family and I just can't picture myself saying: "Billy you can't go to college because daddy likes to fly and infact he likes it so much that he does it for free" I am trying my luck overseas..I will give it one more shot. Rant over...

whaaaaa whaaaaa, boo hoo for you. You are not cut out for this job with your attitude. Go work overseas and when that does not work out you can get a nice office job and sent little Billy to college.

withthatsaid182 10-13-2008 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 477929)

Ok group hug

we need more of those around here...

stoki 10-13-2008 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 478264)
whaaaaa whaaaaa, boo hoo for you. You are not cut out for this job with your attitude. Go work overseas and when that does not work out you can get a nice office job and sent little Billy to college.

So the people who ARE cut out for this job are the ones who will happily accept the poverty wages we get paid, and who will happily take anything we are offered by management as long as we get to fly a shiny jet? Maybe thats the attitude we should all have.

No crying here. Some treat this as a career and a way to earn a living, and expect to be rewarded for their efforts accordingly. It's not only about the love for flying, you know. If you see nothing wrong with the amount we get paid, then you have a problem. We all know what we were getting ourselves into, but the times have slightly changed since then, and so have future perspectives.

You cannot blame him, or anyone else who wants to leave this industry in the U.S for greener pastures overseas, where being a pilot still has some reward left in it.

I think we can all agree that we need to get paid more. All I am saying is I don't see any reason why anybody can jump/is jumping on Rascal's back for this, the frustration/anger are fully justifiable.

Jughead 10-13-2008 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by stoki (Post 478290)

You cannot blame him, or anyone else who wants to leave this industry in the U.S for greener pastures overseas, where being a pilot still has some reward left in it.

I think we can all agree that we need to get paid more. All I am saying is I don't see any reason why anybody can jump/is jumping on Rascal's back for this, the frustration/anger are fully justifiable.

Nope, don't blame him for wanting to leave. If I hated my job and had little hope of improving my situation, I'd leave too. But when that day comes, I'll just leave - I won't come on this or any other forum full of airline pilots and whine to everyone else about how bad things are.

stoki 10-13-2008 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 478307)
Nope, don't blame him for wanting to leave. If I hated my job and had little hope of improving my situation, I'd leave too. But when that day comes, I'll just leave - I won't come on this or any other forum full of airline pilots and whine to everyone else about how bad things are.


Well to each his own, this is a forum after all, used for discussion, as well as occasional venting to some who may understand.

The Juice 10-13-2008 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 478307)
Nope, don't blame him for wanting to leave. If I hated my job and had little hope of improving my situation, I'd leave too. But when that day comes, I'll just leave - I won't come on this or any other forum full of airline pilots and whine to everyone else about how bad things are.

Exactly, just move on. No need to go out with a bang!

CTPILOT 10-13-2008 02:31 PM

try contract flying overseas....good luck Rascal we all share your pain....I guess

HercDriver130 10-13-2008 03:24 PM

Amen brother.


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 478253)
Achieving such a position depends on a multitude of things...primarily networking, having a minimum of 2500tt w/ 500 hours turbine and an ATP, networking, a strong commitment to customer service, and did I mention networking?

I've never been so happy to fly a jet so slow as I am in the Citation...:D



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