The Juice - could you post something else - just so I can look at your avatar one more time - OJ what a loser - ha! ha! ha!

Sorry, okay back to the regularly scheduled thread...

Broken records just skipping and skipping and skipping...ect.
On this forum, if anybody comments negatively on the state of the industry, he/she is blasted by the same broken records about doing their homework, "paying dues", "just be glad you weren't here when..." ect. Bottom line, the cheerleaders will always slam anybody who thinks about throwing in the towel for a more suitable job. I love my new job (non-aviation). I left the industry and still fly several times a week. I love flying, that will never waiver. The jet was fun for about a year. The industry was not what I wanted. I did my homework and knew what I was getting into.

Guess what? I didn't want it after trying it. Is that a #@$%%# crime around here? My suspicion is that I share this opinion with several others. Problem is that around here if you say so, you will be put down with harsh words, mostly by the same smugsters. You know who you are.

what industry are you in now?

[quote=dozer;477758]Very true." The I can handle a short term period of poverty before things get better" mentality should be a thing of the past. The regional FO position is now a almost a career position.[/quote]


Ding, Ding, Ding,.... we have a winner.

And this is why we really need some new blood in ALPA, to get things going towards better contracts, with some type of section/clause that would prevent one ALPA carrier from being whipsawed by another ALPA carrier.... a kind of contract protection clause.

It's also why people need to stop thinking of regionals as stepping stones to major airlines.... because those days are all but gone. Look at midwest; being outsourced to a regional.... the exact scenario that major airline pilot unions were worried about IS happening. If we don't stand together, this trend will continue and we will all be worse off.

2008 payscales in 1995 dollars:

A newhire FO would be making around $10,500 a year flying a 50-seat jet.
A sixth-year FO would be making $19,000 a year flying a 76-seat jet, or $8,000 a year to fly a 32-seat T-prop.

Were the pay scales that bad in 1995, or would you say things have stayed the same or improved?

Just curious where you got those numbers from.

By my calculations $10,500 in 1995 equals $14,159.17 today
$19,000 in 1995 equals $25,621.36 today.

The Inflation Calculator

Threads like these really make me appreciate my corporate job :D

I was using inflation numbers from the USAToday on my hotel doorstop.
I'd trust your numbers way more than mine. :D

What I can't figure out is why people are under the belief that it is their responsibility to pay for their kids education. My parents didn't have the money for that so I paid my own way. I had part time jobs and waited until after 4 years in the military to go to college. Didn't get one dime from my parents.

jrmyl

Because that is something you do for your children if you can afford to do it. It gives them a headstart in life without having the burdon of educational debt. It isn't a case of who's responsibility it is, it's a case of can you reasonably afford to do it.

Not to be too blunt, but when it comes to providing an education for your kids, but some folks can't and some folks can; those that can typically do.