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Old 11-14-2008 | 08:22 AM
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Are there any pics of them in the Midwest colors? That starts soon right?
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Old 11-14-2008 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mking84
Are there any pics of them in the Midwest colors? That starts soon right?
I saw one in ATL about 3 weeks ago......the last time I actually flew
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Old 11-14-2008 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DLAJ77
and you dont think republics weak teamster contract will hurt us at wisconsin when it come time for negotiations??
Comair submitted CHQ's pilot contract (and others) as evidence in bankruptcy court to show that Comair's pilot costs and workrules were not competitive.

The judge agreed and threw out the Comair pilot contract.
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Old 11-14-2008 | 09:09 AM
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I just realized why I haven't been back to this website in months...you're all retarded.
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Old 11-14-2008 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkyBN584
you're all retarded.
If by that statement you mean to say we're regional pilots, then yes, we are retarded.
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Old 11-14-2008 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
If by that statement you mean to say we're regional pilots, then yes, we are retarded.
That should also cover those who aspire to get in at a regional
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Old 11-14-2008 | 04:38 PM
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To be honest none of us, RAH or Mesa have anything to do with the work we are handed. Its given to us in a crap sandwich and hopefully there is enough mayo to get it down.

Will our contract hurt Air Whiskey, no Air Whiskey will hurt air whiskey. Taxiing on 3 engines , Captains having sick outs because the schedule blows and your terrific contract doesn't protect it for you and.... not upsizing your fleet is what will hurt AirWhiskey. You guys think you have it by the stones with your pay rate and your deadhead pay. All I can say is have fun on that junior assignment and that hot reserve. I wouldn't know what that feels like. I am not bashing Air whiskey but that earlier comment was made as flame bait.

I make 40k as a second year fo bidding min sked. I haven't worked a weekend in months and never worked a holiday I didn't bid. And before you start, 40k sucks but that's what it is. Again, I had nothing to do with that. We are in the midst of contract negotiations and hopefully we can get that rate up. The previous blended FO pay was based on the Saab340's and the Erj 145 which is what we had on the flight line at the time. If I recall your last contract would of been based on the 5 apu engine BAE 146 and 50 seat crj's.

What we really need is one union and one contract to take work rules and pilot compensation out of the picture. How do we make that work? I have no idea but we must stop pitting against each other.
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Old 11-14-2008 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
To be honest none of us, RAH or Mesa have anything to do with the work we are handed. Its given to us in a crap sandwich and hopefully there is enough mayo to get it down.

Will our contract hurt Air Whiskey, no Air Whiskey will hurt air whiskey. Taxiing on 3 engines , Captains having sick outs because the schedule blows and your terrific contract doesn't protect it for you and.... not upsizing your fleet is what will hurt AirWhiskey. You guys think you have it by the stones with your pay rate and your deadhead pay. All I can say is have fun on that junior assignment and that hot reserve. I wouldn't know what that feels like. I am not bashing Air whiskey but that earlier comment was made as flame bait.

I make 40k as a second year fo bidding min sked. I haven't worked a weekend in months and never worked a holiday I didn't bid. And before you start, 40k sucks but that's what it is. Again, I had nothing to do with that. We are in the midst of contract negotiations and hopefully we can get that rate up. The previous blended FO pay was based on the Saab340's and the Erj 145 which is what we had on the flight line at the time. If I recall your last contract would of been based on the 5 apu engine BAE 146 and 50 seat crj's.

What we really need is one union and one contract to take work rules and pilot compensation out of the picture. How do we make that work? I have no idea but we must stop pitting against each other.

Couple weak points here. Schedules are not great cause they want PBS on the property and its just not going to happen. Junior man...happened once to me i think...ready reserve are the two most junior guys in base. Pay rate, 100 percent DH, 100 percent cancellation pay, trip and duty rig...but i would give it all up to fly 36 more people around and take a pay cut.
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Old 11-14-2008 | 08:09 PM
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Congrats, yall are flying a bigger a/c and consistantly remind us of that, yet you're airline is runnin 7 + codeshares and still has people on the street...some 'Regional of the Year' airline right there
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Old 11-14-2008 | 09:27 PM
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You missed my point because you're to ready to beat someone up. I've got a few friends at whisky and not one of them has anything positive to say about the QOL. But hey he gets paid more.

And the fact that we fly a bigger airplane gets tossed in our face a lot more then we toss it in yours. We could care less. Furthermore just like everything else we don't have a say in these things. The contract we are currently working under was negotiated with the possibility of aircraft this size. We did not even have an option for one when the deal was sealed. We are in the middle of negotiations but frankly no one here is going to fall on our sword because some other pilot group thinks we are sell outs. We'll agree on terms that we find fair and sensible. It won't do us any good to have the BEST pay in the industry. It will only be a matter of weeks for one of the many companies pilot groups that whine about us to take a knee with the hope of getting more flying and upgrading quicker. Ask everyone that was on top at some point how things are going today. And then crap in my hat because I did it to them? Grow up!

I'll say it again for the speed readers. We need to fix our work force and take pilot wage and work rules off the table. The only way to do that is too come together as a professional work force. When one company can pit another against another then compititon and human nature will take over. You are going to protect you and your family. I wish I was wrong.

To the other caller: I don't exactly think having 125 out of 2400 on the street as a big recession here at RAH. We had given up our 135 Delta flying out of Cincy and are pealing off the crj's per the plan. Until we take over the world, "stay tuned for that" we are over staffed. Airline's over staffed furlough, other industrys just fire you. Of course we don't want it but...wait what exactly was your point again?
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